Why do white people think this is THEIR country?

nickieali

are you from the united states? if so don't you care about the united states and your children's future? don't you care where your tax dollar goes..I'm white and this is my country, it also belongs to the blacks, the Indians, the Chinese, and so one it belongs to anyone whom is LEGAL...we have laws for a reason and the illegals don't want to obey them..my ancestors was the ones that was treated like crap by the white people..and most native Americans don't want the illegals here either..ask that question and i think you would be shocked by the response you will get..

I welcome any immigrant here as long as they do it the right way and become legal..i don't want no illegals here..do you realize the diseases they are bringing here? Everyone deserves a chance at a better life as long as they follow the laws of the land .

nordic_winds1969

I am white. I am not ashamed of my ancestors. My family was still living in Sweden and surrounding countries. What makes me made is that everyone seems to attack America and they do not look at their own violent history of their people in their country. I do not hold onto the guilt that others attempt to hold me back with. Slaves, I personally didn't own any. Had I had the opportunity, I would most likely pass. If I had owned them, I would have been very fair with them.
I did not chase the American Indians off their land. I did not have to live at that time so I do not know what exactly was going on. I am not saying it was right, much of what happened was wrong, but I am not going to say sorry for something I personally had nothing to do with.

I am sick of hearing people turn on their own race and be haters and let others feel less worthy of something because of what some other relative did. I did not control them!

Get off your pity pot and do something constructive and help the American Indians if you can. Complaining and whining is simply lip service! Be useful!

Yukaza

Your personal problems with self esteem are just that,your problems.Not mine.If you choose to be ashamed of your race why should I care.I am not ashamed,I am white,I am a native born American living in this century .I can not will not live in the past.YES this is my land as it is the land of all legal citizens.We own our homes ,our land,our businesses.Take your bleeding heart liberal BS and think any thing or say anything you like .YOUR ancestors died so you could have that right.I too feel very sorry for you.You are so very wrong,but you do have that freedom to say how you feel,thanks to all Americans that died for you to have that freedom.What about your feelings for them???

Albannach

Shouldn't you be packing your bags and booking travel back to europe?

machiko_146

I have never experienced this as a non-white. We have been welcomed here. You did not kill, rape, or pillage anyone! How do you know your ancestors were even involved in that? Get over your martyr complex and realize that no one is responsible for the actions of people who lived hundreds of years before. You are only responsible for YOU. This is a country for all people, and we have laws to protect every one of those people.

Terry

You seem a little confused on history. It is no secret that there was persecution of Native Americans - though they themselves were not actually the first tribes in America.

It's also true that slavery was a disgrace, but it was a world-wide trade, not restricted to Caucasians - both Hispanic and African countries were involved in the trade.

There is in history a difference between conquering a country and illegal immigration, which is I suspect what your main point refers to. All societies set laws in place to control the behavior of their own citizens, and guests. Sometimes, those societies are unable to protect themselves against invasion, and become subject to a different set of laws imposed on them by the conquering nation.

However, illegal immigrants are simply flouting the laws of this nation. It's interesting to note that Mexico is trying to stop us buildign a wall intended to keep their citizens in their own country. That's where laws about illegal emmigration need to start.

I believe America has gained immeasurably from LEGAL immigration - no-one is suggesting that legal immigration should be prevented. What we want is for ILLEGAL, LAW-BREAKING CRIMINALS to be stopped from coming here and benefitting from our society, at the expense of ourselves and those waiting patiently in the immigration queue to come here legally.

Leogirl0804

What is it in your make up that you cannot seem to understand between Immigration and Illegal Aliens? You really need some help. I feel sorry for your parents.

Mark

Get off my rock!

what a load of rubish you talk

mmd

Your self-flagellation is amusing.

There isn't a group of people in the civilized world that didn't get where they are by hurting some other group.

Get some perspective.

Valerie

As a non-white person I will answer your question.

You should not be ashamed for your ancestors. You cannot judge the past on the culture and ethics of today. In those days the native Americans were a primitive people who hunted and killed each other with stone tools. In Mexico the Aztecs would capture their enemies by the thousands and cut their hearts out alive, so that their blood would trickle down the steps. In America each tribe regarded each other with suspicion and would measure a man's worth by his courage in the face of battle. Those were rough days.

If the white Europeans never came to America then the natives would still be in the stone age, still fighting each other, still struggling to survive in a wilderness. The Europeans saw America as a wilderness that could be developed, and made more useful to them. They did not see the value of the land in its natural state. Instead they used the European methods of conquering, governing and developing and it worked.

Today we can see the shortsightedness of some of their values but we also need to understand the value of their vision as well. We must accept the bad with the good and seek to improve upon the work of our ancestors.

No one is excluded. However, if we are to remain a country with laws then we must enforce the laws we have or change them. You must ask yourself, can this country continue if there is no law determining who are its citizens?

Zoe

Were you a Indian in a former life. Just Move OUT go to Mexico cry over there for awhile. All you do is dwell on Indains

DAR

Americans know this is our country.

Many of us are not white.

And no, few people are alive today who were around during the Trail of Tears. So few 'remember it.' Wallow in your shame if you like, but most of us don't take on our ancestor's guilt, knowing no country or peoples that ever lived are free of 'ancestral bad acts'.

What makes our ancestors' bad acts so terminally unique?
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Poor people don't make enough to pay taxes that cover their family's education, much less other services. That is why all countries that provide subsidized services limit how many poor people can come. We have to pay for them and they degrade schools and other services where they concentrate. Look around and do some research. The information is easy to find.

Pink Denial

MY family came here legally. I don't want to exclude anyone who wants to come here, dream or no dream, so long as they do it the right way.

My family was also no where near this country during the Trail of Tears or the days of slavery. The same is true for many others. I'm really tired of being blamed for things that not only happened in the past, but that no one with any ties to me was even involved with!

You also might want to read up on history and politics a bit. The country is "ours" because of trade agreements. By your defintion, no one would own any land, I suppose.

kit

Don't worry. You're not white.

Angie S

I like to think that we're a bit more civilized than we were when we first got off the boat. Sure we have screwed things up along the way. We shouldn't have treated the Indians like we did and we shouldn't have brought slaves over. But you know what... you and I didn't do that !! We have laws and rules set up on how to come into our country legally. We let people in on work visa's, we let them go to our colleges, we have all sorts of ways to come to this country and become a citizen of these United States. For a person to decide to forgo all of the rules and come to this country illegally shows the kind of person they are. We really don't need more people here that have no reguard for the law !!! We have enough "white people" like that !!! We ( US citizens) are not perfect. We can't let the country be over ran by illegals. No country lets itself be over ran with illegals...don't think it's just the evil white Americans !!!

Jim P

Because they're the most recent victors. When whites are defeated and slaughtered, the next race will think it is their country. And so on. Genocide and territorial expansion have been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. Haven't you ever wondered why people in certain regions all look alike?

Wonder what happened to anyone who looked different, hmmm?

akablackbetty

why do mexicans, think its theirs?

kysteelgirl

be ashamed all you want if you like being a victim......one more time the issue is not race, color or creed it is illegal vs legal...

just so you know there was no such thing as illegal immigrant when our country was in it's infancy

OFFICER CAMPBELL

probaly cuz the history books teach us that

Crazybird

It is my country because I am an American, not because my skin color is white. It is my country because my family fought and died for this country. It is my country because this is where my allegience lies. This is my country because I am concerned about the best interest of every citizen in this country, not just a "special" group of them. This is my country because I beleive in the principles our founding fathers had. This is my country because there is no-where else I'd rather be.

I do not exclude anyone who wants to come to America as long as they do it legally. Being a citizen of this country is more than just wanting more money and a better financial life.

FozzieBear

Native Americans did not have a sovereign nation. There is no moral equivalence. What was considered to be legal and moral 250 years ago is not necessarily the same today.

The Pilgrims did not expect the natives to give them food, shelter, and clothing. The Pilgrims did not steal from the natives like illegals do to us. Taking welfare benefits and food stamps, putting their kids in schools that I pay for, using the police that I pay for, using the roads that I pay for, and using the hospitals that I pay for is stealing.

Try again...

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ask me again

Sweetheart it is not just white people people that are American think that this is their country because it is when you pay taxes you invest in this country those who do not invest do not belong and that is how I see it. I am black and I say its my country too. And I will be damned if anyone tells me different because of some historical event that happened before you, your mother and your grandmother was born get over it! this country is my country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

W0LF

It might be helpful for you to ask a single question but I'll certainly do what I can to help inform each of your requests.
The Pilgrims whom we honor on Thanksgiving did have a visa, or rather since there was no US Government they had a writ of colonization from the sovern of this land, King George. The people we honor who are criminals would be the founding fathers who rebelled against their Government.
Native Americans had to walk a long way. Most people who are conquerred and loose their right to govern themselves end up walking a lot. The difference between a Reservation and a Concentration camp is that on a Reservation you can indulge in unfair competation agianst other businesses in your state without paying taxes on your income and you have the right to legally discriminate how your tribe will spend it's money. In a concentration camp they preform inhuman experiements on you and you get gassed to death.. so I guess.. pretty much nothing to do with one another.
White people think this is their country because despite the guilt tripping of the world at large we were born here and we are citizens. We have a right to participate in the government and to fight for what we believe in.
We Americans feel that we can exlcude those who come to our Country because they didn't come here like our ancestors. Our ancestors faught for our independence from the greatest imperialist power in the world, we stood our ground through a civil war and we stuggled through two world wars, a great depressions and the cold war. We made this the land of opportunity that so many want to enjoy. We welcome as many as we can into our Country, those who try to steal America do not recieve our love.

bekkiboo31

Because it is. Mexico surely isn't our country!....No, our country is The United States of America. We are Americans - not Mexicans. And you are sadly mistaken if you really believe the illegals are just trying to make a better life for their families. There's a lot more to it than that. All I can say is if the illegal immigrants don't like the way they're treated here in the US, they need to go back to their home country and stay there. They have no rights in this country - because they are, simply, illegal.

mnwomen

Maybe if you would quit railing against the white people some people might take you seriously. I am white and this is my country. It is also someones who is black , brown, yellow or what ever. It belongs to all Americans. I dont feel I have the right to e.xclude anyone as long as they do it the legal way! And for the record I am not ashamed of my ancestors. You cannot change history. Comparing todays reservations to concentration camps is wrong. Nobody makes the Native Americans stay on a reservation. They can go where they want like any American.

ART

Your teachers have really brain washed you with guilt. I am sorry you are ashamed to be white.
My Native American ancestors actually walked the trail of tears and brought their black slaves, that they had bought and paid for,with them. During the Civil war My ancestors tribe under General Waite, a Cherokee, fought with the Confederacy and were Proudly the last army to surrender to the North. That reservation you speak of no longer exists, it is called now the state of Oklahoma. All the native Americans were made citizens there and the tribal leaderships broken up because they took sides in the Civil war. As a result they prospered. The Cherokee count their numbers higher than at anytime in their history.
My Cree ancestors were murdered by the Lakota for no other reason than they were on land controlled by them. Two of their 4 children survived. The 2 teenagers, 15 and 13, that survived, walked to the safety of Russian held territory, today Washington State.
This is all ancient history and nothing to be ashamed of. In fact you should be proud that your ancestors persevered. It is the history of the growing pains of a nation uniting into the greatest nation in the world. A Nation that would later bring the end of 2 World wars and freedom to, since 1945, 1 billion people around the world.
It is our country. "E Pluribus Unum" ("From Many, One")

Devils_Advocate

This argument is so damn old. For one we had no control over what our ancestors did. Two in the pilgrims day they didn't even know what immigration was lol. So how does any of that have any justification to the illegal immigrants of today? Get a grip. Its not just the white mans land it belongs to all legal Americans. Why you got to bring the whites in it.

MIKE J

Yawn, poor little white girl. Oh and the word is "herded", you stupid trailer trash. I'm part Native American so maybe I can cut your head off for a little retribution.

katjha2005

They are not teaching you young ones anything in school.. it's so sad you get on here and spew nonsense that you don't even know what you are talking about. I'm part Native American and part White and I got to tell you... this whole subject is getting old... why all of a sudden are we beating this dead horse... shall I go back and tell my ancestors to change history and slap their hands for what they did? Give me a break... The Peace Policy isn't something we would do today, but it wasn't today and Native American's have a lot of laws that protect them and help them thrive - laws that don't apply to me and you - so while you are paying your property taxes on your Victorian home that your former illegal immigrant husband bought for you.... know that any Native American does not have to pay property taxes on their reservation...Next time you go to a casino on a reservation, know that is pure profit for a Native American...
Second... there were no illegal immigrants back then because there was no country-no country no immigrants... look up the definition....
Live with it or move.. every country has something bad in it's past and all we can do is learn from our mistakes and move on.....

It's good to learn about history so we do not repeat our mistakes, it's not good to dwell on them otherwise we never move on

LilBabyReeves93

Man this stuff is so stupid all you guys shi*. None of you guys get these things, all people really care about is money its so stupid. money money money that's all i see, this land ain't just land you think you can claim it, this land is not ours it belongs to no human being. it belongs to mother nature and the creator. everything that is happening in this world is because of everyone. all this fu**ing drugs and alcohol fu**ing stupid i think. i think slavery is stupid money is stupid just cause the state pays taxes and ish don't mean nothing. Nobody knows the deal of life. its a gift not just a thing you live through, everyone goes through their mistakes the past is the past who cares. if our ancestors came back they would be crying their eyes out because this is not the way they faught for the world. civilized or not its stupid on how the way people live now a days. people living on streets people starving and nobody tries to help them out nobody all people do in these days is care about themselves and what they want and need you guys need to get a real life and actually learn something about the world. stuff you dont see that everyone needs to know because slowly life for the human is coming to an end because everyone in this world dont know how to treat it the way it deserves to be treated. this land we live on gives everyone life and every creature and land has life also not just the human beings that live. people need to understand the more you disrespect mother nature and use and abuse alcohol and drugs the more risks it is to die. and legal illegal yeah laws are good but there is way too many, too many for people to abide by. people are just going to break laws and rules i dont see why people have laws to keep from doing this to keep from doing that stupid! dont tell me you havent broken a rule either everyone in the world has at least broken one rule or law in this world. Slavery Oppression Racism all of it is just stupid i swear people need to learn how to come together as one maybe then this world wouldnt look so shi**y it would actually be something to live for. But people are to stupid and dumb to actually do something about the world.

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