Home     Links     Contact Us     Bookmark  
 
   Homepage      News      Legal Forum      Dictionary  
Home : Legal Forum : Immigration

Would Illegals be less objectionable if they did the following?
Find answers to your legal question.





Would Illegals be less objectionable if they did the following?

Whatever they earn... they dont send back to Mexico or wherever, but keep it in the USA and spend it to stimulate the economy even further.

They stop waving that flag of theirs without the US flag and they stop disrespecting it.

They get their illegal selves legalized and they pay certain extra conditions like 4-8 years military service or 20% increased taxes for 8-15 years (the time it would take them to be citizens the legal way).

They stop supporting La Raza or any of those remotely racist pro-Hispanic groups.

(before you attack me, I'd like to say that I am not nor will I ever be pro-illegal, but I've always wanted to play devil's advocate).
Additional Details
You have a lot of guts Defender of the HateREd... I'm not the sissy who doesnt allow emails. And by the way what I do is MY business.


    




sassy
No!
illegal is still - illegal.
Even if amnesty is granted, many will not accept the fact they were first criminals who broke our laws, and were rewarded.


antmanbee
Rating
I got a better idea.
Just send them back to country of origin...where ever that might be.


Hadenough
Rating
To some but not all.
True peace is not merely the absence of the objectionable : it is the presence of true justice being given.

We become just by doing just acts, not by breaking them. Do not believe that possibly you can escape the consequence of your action. If a crime was committed-justice not reward should be given. That is only right-if you have full knowledge of what you were doing was wrong.
In the case of immigration-there is a right way and a wrong way of entry. Until those rules are changed--people are accountable to them. Some will still feel even with your ideas-that a wrong was given a free pass.


Mark P
Illegals would be less objectionable if they paid taxes, and if their employers abided by the employment laws which would apply if they were legal employees. Ah, but that would defeat the whole purpose of hiring them in the first place.

Illegals would be less objectionable if they were legal.


clone_marshal_bacara
If they just stop disrespecting America, they would have a lot less people trying to give them the boot, they are causing their own problems.


White
I Think I would just like them to leave. There are to many of them and they have already broke the law just by being here.

November 28th...A day without an American..Stay home from work..do no business with any company that hires them or caters to them. Any company that puts spanish on their signs.
Go to your courthouses and wave the American flag and send a strong message to our newly elected officials.
No Amnesty. Get the Trespassers out of our Country!


She-ra
Rating
Less objectionable...No, they still came here illegally and I object to that, regardless.

More tolerable, Yes...their anti-patriotic behavior really strikes a nerve with most.

RE: LA RAZA Pro-immigrants complain all of the time about our Minute Men and how they should be outlawed. Why do they not complain about these anti-American groups who want to take over the United States. Don't they know that if Mexicans over throw American government then they will run our country the same way they run theirs. Last time I checked they weren't doing a very good job with their own...


riteon
Well dances_wi probally most of us when we go back in time our ancestors did come here from another country...they got off a boat, stood in long lines and were legal after the process. They went to work, no freebee's, no welfare, no food stamps, no free hospitals, no SS, and the list goes on and on. They didn't drain the tax payers and stand in line for hand outs. They were legal and expected no free handouts. Do you get that?


timberland1952
Rating
If they come here legally, then they are not illegal.

How can I /we trust a person who's first act in the country is to break the law?


Morpheus
Rating
Man, hombre, where do you get your information. Mexican Nationals DO NOT support La Raza. American Hispanics and Mexican Nationals are not in league with each other. They do not communicate with each other. They do not support each other. The Mexican Nationals think that the American Hispanics are traitors to Mexico who sold old and remained in the U.S. back when they had a chance to choose. American Hispanics don't care for Mexican Nationals because they're always being lumped in with these people who come here with no - I repeat NO education whatsoever - and then drop out of school since they're in the 8th grade age or whatever and AMERICAN HISPANICS GET BLAMED FOR DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL when it's the MEXICAN NATIONALs who are dropping out. Even though there may be a common lineage, most young American Hispanics do not speak Spanish or very little, so there is no communication, no cammaraderie. And in elections, you'll find Hispanics voting against more lenient immigration.

Will everyone please quit lumping American Hispanics with foreigners??


Crazybird
Rating
You forgot speak English.

I for one say no. First off they have blatently broken the law. Secondly....even if I wanted to be really, really, nice....they have spewed such hatred and been so arrogant and rude that I personally wouldn't beleive most of them. The "in your face" and "we demand" and all the rest just blew any sliver of "compromise" on my part. There is clearly another agenda by a very radical group and I can't ignore that as well.


Teresa A
it would be nice if they came over legally. it has to do with being here illegally. i don't care if they are from sweden..


Betty Boop
Rating
I don't think anyone should be allowed here that burns our flags, waves there own and disrespects our heritage. Anyone who wants to live here but has no respect for our values should be sent home. They should pay there fair share and extra for being allowed on our grounds..enjoying our freedom


ALWAYS GOTTA KNOW
That would take the fire out of the belly of most Americans. It would, however, keep the flow of illegals into the country until we were a Mexican nation, certainly in the southwest. There is something unsavory about what those of us who are citizens have had to eat to avoid saying negative things about the People from Mexico. They are not the problem. This is all about money and there isn't anything in it for we citizens or the vast majority of the illegals.
Good thinking and good choices.


mimilundgren
Rating
You know, devil's advocate, you present some pretty good arguments for sifting the sheep from the goats.

I would add that until they are full citizens, they are not allowed any social services or HUD homes or anything else. If they have used food stamps, welfare services then no-go....those who have used our services get to go back to their own country.

For those who have NOT stolen any ID's, for those who have NOT taken any social services, for those who have paid their bills...to include hospital bills....then, yes....with your stipulations

Perhaps....perhaps.....


RENEGADE.
I could live with that.


lili t
Rating
interesting thought, ...


timtheenchanter
Rating
Yes.
Just being honest. :)


TRUTHSEEKER
Rating
no need to attack you. you make sense. approach are gov with this. they will most likely have that retard look on their face.


Debra
Rating
Your proposition sounds fair enough but they will not stop sending money back to their families in Mexico. If spaces were traded would you abandon your wife to a country for money and not send her any of the wealth, thereby starving your children?


cynical_about_future_generations
Rating
They could do all those things and it wouldn't matter ... they'd still be illegal. The only way to "get their illegal selves legalized" is through yet another misguided "amnesty" by the U.S. government or to leave the U.S. and apply for immigrant visas in their own country, and that they probably will never do, since being here illegally has so few actual ramifications.


TrOpPo
Rating
I AGREE DUDE


darkdiva
The reason illegals are objectionable to you is that you are racist against Mexicans as are a great many Americans. There is nothing they can do to justify their presence in this country. They say they are here to do the jobs that Americans won't do, the truth is that they are here to do the jobs Americans would do but the employers hiring them don't want to pay minimum wage to people qualified to get the jobs. The military service is the only way they should be allowed to work in this country, but then I doubt that they would be loyal to the U.S. It's really funny but nobody worries about the Canadian border. I'm usually a liberal but I confess I'm ready to see the government deport 12 million of them regardless to how long they have lived here. I also feel that children of illegal parents should not be given citizenship because their parents were here illegally.
I wish I could welcome them but I find it annoying. I don't want to listen to Spanish language television stations in the United States. In a time of crisis, I want to know who I can trust. If a person is here illegally, I don't trust them. Sorry that's the way I feel.


silentwash
I want to eat you........

you make more sense than any of these hoohaas.......email me


dances with unicorns
Rating
First - I simply don't find "illegals" objectionable (I'm presuming you mean Mexican illegal immigrants as you mention La Raza and sending money to Mexico). As to your suggestions:
1) If they didn't send their money back to Mexico, more would simply come here, and/or the U.S. would be sending more aid to Mexico, so for me that issue is a non-issue. 2) I would never ask them to stop waving their flag - would you ask a Polish-American to stop caring about his/her flag, or an Irish-American, or an any-other-American? 3) Most illegal aliens would LOVE to be legal, in my experience (I was born and raised in Texas, so I have a little experience with the subject); I think all citizens should do some sort of service for the country, either military or something in the way of civillian service. I don't see that overburdening them with taxes would help anybody, especially as they generally make far less than the minimum wage in the first place. 4) I would never tell them what party to support; maybe you don't remember the time before La Raza had some power, but I do, and people got away (sometimes literally) with murder, and certainly with many cruelties to Mexican immigrants, legal and illegal. Telling ANYBODY what to believe, how to vote, who to support, etc., is utterly contrary to the entire foundation of America, and I could never support that. Finally, just so there's no confusion - I'm not Hispanic; my family has lived in Texas since the early 1800s, and I even have a distant relative who signed the Texas Declaration of Independence. I simply think people should be treated like human beings, and not treated badly because they come from a specific place, or have the desire to better their lives. My family came from other countries (with the exception of a few branches of the family tree that are Native American, which also gives me some right to say who comes in), and unless you're 100% Native American, your ancestors did too. I have no sympathy for people whose families got here, made a good life, and then want to slam the door in the faces of people who want the same thing.


Pamela
Rating
No this plan will be unacceptable to Mexico


William R
Rating
Lets just convert them to Atheism too while were at it.



ZIET HIEL!!!!!!!!!!!


get a life


AveGirl
Rating
It takes 2-5 yrs to become a citizen currently.

Those are some good ideas, however they should be allowed to send money back. They are here for that reason.

My problem with them is that they came here illegally in the first place, then stayed here all the time knowing they were committing a crime, and now expect everything to be ok.

I don't have a problem with giving them a chance to become legal, but also making them pay for their crime. That tax thing is a good idea.

The flag is another good idea.

No one should be in racists groups or support them. (of any race)

I am anti illegal. But I am willing to give them a chance if they want to do things the right way. If they are here to work for a while so that they can go back there and not have to work, then I am not for that either. If they are really here to make a better life for themselves, then I am all for that, but we should not have to learn spanish for them (or whatever language they may speak), they should learn english to live here.


goodworksgal2006
I think spending money in our country is a great thing. How sad that one must move to the U.S., just to send money home to feed the kids!

I think flag-waving is okay. It represents a sort of pride for one's country, whatever country that may be. I don't see anyone burning the U.S. flag.

I think that all "illegals" should be subject to all the same privileges and conditions that any citizen abides by (or should). Military service is, at this time, voluntary, and so the same rule should apply to "illegals" who are attempting to get legal status.

The good thing about the U.S., is the freedom of speech and the right to assemble. If "illegals" want to support LaRaza or the Easter bunny, they should be allowed, as long as it is done in a peaceful way.

Playing the devil's advocate is the only way to bring about change toward a better good. Great question!





 Enter Your Message or Comment


User Name:  
User Email:   
Post a comment:




Legal Discussion Forum

 Would you want Spanish to be America's second language?

Additional Details
um kids in high school dont have to take spanish. most of them do though. cuz they think its easy. there are lots of other languages to take. and i wish i took like ...


 Whats logical about deporting 20 million ppl?
4% of the population?HOW does 4% of the population hurt the ALMIGHTY USA?
Additional Details
4% unemployment means that there is almost NO UNEMPLOYMENT....


 I am not racist, but I am just wondering the opinion Would do you think of immigrants coming to the USA?
...


 If you witness someone crossing the border illegally would you report them to the border patrol ?
...


 Do you think that US government should legalize illegal Mexicans?
we just want to work "hard work" not easy ...


 Since when was white considered to be a race ?
...


 Should all illegal aliens be deported.?
i truely belive that it would hurt the econommy. They build roads houses and much more for much cheaper salary. If a legal individual does this type of labor he will want an increase of wage. ...


 What do you think of people that come to this country and don't speak English or Spanish?
...


 Stop Immigration into England...Full Stop!!!!!!?
Isnt it about time the English Government shut down our Island and stopped the influx of immigration here...unless you are a surgeon or multi millionaire?...


 Why do Americans and Europeans have the right to be bigoted about immigrants ?
After all the only reason we are so prosperous is the fact we have built our countries positions in the world at the expense of all the under developed countries around the world. Whether it was ...


 Can I leave the UK?
How can I leave the UK? I would like to go and live and work in another country.... Not sure where though, maybe NY

I'm sick of the UK and want to leave.....

What do I ...


 Why is it no one can explain what jobs illegal aliens take that American's don't want?
...


 Do I really look Mexican?
I have Mexican origin relatives... by mariage... but I am 0% hispanic

I am actually Welsh...... welsh is germanic and romanic decent!
Additional Details
30.06 pointed at my ...


 Do you favor legalizing the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants already living in the US?
...


 According to the AP, there are an estimated 6 million illegal Mexicans in the US. How do you feel about that?
...


 Why are ppl so closed minded?
why do aamericans think that all immagrants are here to steal their jobs why do you think we are a burdon on you? do you not see all the latinos working in downtown LA Chicago making .002/item to ...


 How come there are Black people who don't like illegal immigration?
The White people are trying to keep illegals out because they hate minorities. Shouldn't Blacks and Hispanics stick together?...


 Would you give 10% of your income to an illegal family ?
Till they are settled in ?...


 What would US be like a month without a Mexican ?
Yards would go unkept. Mac Donalds would have no cooks. No fruit would get picked. There would be no nannies or gardners.
Building projects would come to a stop. Fields would be empty.Crops ...


 Daddy says that ILLEGAL Mexicans have taken his future........?
and he doesn't want MINE taken as well. What can my daddy and I do to make sure that I have a strong and prosperous life?...




Copyright (c) 2009-2011 Wiki Law 3k Sunday, May 27, 2012 - Trusted legal information for you.
Archive: Forum  |  Forum  |  Forum  |  Links
0.084