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pink1957girl
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My grandfather immigrated to Canada from England. He was your typical "proper British" person. His children, including my mother, were all born and raised in Canada. They were not British. They were Canadians! (My mother immigrated to America and was in the process of becoming a citizen when she died.)
I don't understand how you are an immigrant of England since you were born and raised there. Are you a British citizen? If you consider yourself British and someone says you aren't "proper" tell them to "GO POUND SAND!" |
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C B
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Your first problem is caring what anyone thinks. Once you clear that hurtle you'll be fine. |
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Racist Answer Man
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I don't know about the UK, but in the US we've got idiots that say we're all immigrants - despite the fact that I'm 4th generation to be born in the US. |
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Yak Rider
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I don't know about British society, but in the US if you were born here it doesn't matter if your parents legally immigrated from Mars.... You are 100% American. |
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Adrian N
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As long as your parents immigrated legally, you are in no way an immigrant. Those who say otherwise are promoting a LIE that pro-illegal aliens tell people in a attempt to distort and "water down" their own lawless activity. |
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Barney Ard
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Your not ethnic British (and yes there IS such a thing as an ethnic Brit) but maybe culturally you are. |
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Unknown Alias
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I'm in the same position. Personally, I don't feel like an immigrant per se', but I would only consider myself British on paper. I respect the history and culture of this nation, but I will always feel a greater sense of allegiance to my ancestral homeland. |
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George L
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It depends on where "here" is. In America, you'd certainly be American, unless you'd never learned English, which would set you apart from other native born Americans. In Greece, you would always be foreign, or xeni. You can't be considered Greek no matter how many generations you've been there if you're family is not Greek originally. Even if you are ethnic Greek, if your family lived in Anatolia or the Middle East, you're still more than a little bit xeni. Different societies answer this question in different ways. England isn't America and it isn't Greece. And, if your parents came from Morocco and you were born in Spain, would you be considered "proper" Spanish? |
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airmonkey120
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no i'd say they are part america if born and raised in america |
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gone!
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No Honey if you were born in England then you ARE British through and through, no matter where your parents were born.You Can usually take out citizenship of the country were your parents were born and have dual citizenship, but you are still classed as British legally |
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Star.
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I am glad that Jennifer got reported that was nasty what she said! well at least I did! Well I don't see what's wrong with like being not proper British... |
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Greg N
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You shouldn't care what racist morons say to you.If your parents were legally in this country at the time of your birth then you are a British citizen.
To be considered 'ethnic British' your family would have had to be in Britain for a few hundred years but only the BNP and other racist idiots care about that. |
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frustration
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It is a shame that the term 'immigrant' is now considered derogatory, if not then there would be no real follow through from your question. I'm not sure that 'proper' British exists as each has a personal view of 'proper' There are lots of posts here that address the points but the law is clear.
Born before 1 Jan 1983 - Nationality by birth so British
Born on or after 1 Jan 1983 - Nationality by parentage so if either of your parents has British Nationality then you are British.
If both your parents retained their Spanish nationality then you are Spanish.
You either are or are not, no half measures.
If you were born in 83 or after and have lived in the UK all your life you qualify for British citizenship but you would have to apply. |
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djn_jay
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Being unsure of the common laws of Britain, I would point u to what their society considers to be "proper".
In America, the 14th Amendment mentions two types of citizenship... One by law and the other by birth. |
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Your name here, cheap.
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No. If you are born there and embrace the culture then you are a Brit. If otoh you still want to live like the place your parents came from you are a traitor ans should be shipped out. |
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Natty-Lea
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No. If you are born and raised in a country, then it's your country just as much as anybody else's. :-) |
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Beastie
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What's important is what you think you are.
As far as I'm concerned you are a citizen of where you are born or raised. Since you were both born and raised in England, you're English. Unless you prefer to call yourself Spanish, which, given your parentage, you've got every right to.
Essentially immigrants, what an utter crock of sh!t.
I'd guess the person who said that finds Bernard Manning amusing.... ie 'if you're born in a stable does that make you a horse?' |
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Uncle Joe
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No. If you're born and raised in the UK, you're British. |
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Yeah, You're F@(%d!
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Well, no, my parents are polish and I was born and grew up in ireland and am classed as irish but I have been referred to as "Second Generation Immigrant" i hate that! |
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saharaaj
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in US those who tell others that they are immigrants forget they are themselves immigrants. The only natives are in reserve and all are immigrants and should be thrown out .
US does not have two categories like UK has
UK subjects and UK citizens. |
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david b
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i think officially you have to have had your ancestors here since 1703. |
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Bodo C
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That's got to be bollocks,my two sons were born and raised here ,they hardly know anything about their parents culture because it eclipses with the culture and traditions over here.My two are "british" first and foremost ,they don't know anything else... |
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steddy voter
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Anyone born in a country is a member of that country (unless in the case of military or vacationing parents). Period.
You aren't "essentially" an immigrant. You're a British citizen. Your parents may be immigrants, but you are not. |
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JUSTME
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I don't believe that at all. You were born in the UK and are a UK citizen, not an immigrant. Your parents would be considered immigrants, but not you. |
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galyamike
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Yes, but do not worry. Your credentials are essentially British. |
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braves squaw
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Who the Hell died and left those people in charge?
Have you ever heard the expression, "Consider the source!".
People who say stupid things like that, are proof that, sometimes, reproduction should not take place!!
You are a citizen of the world, regardless of the country you were born in, and as such, you are a person of value.
Respect and embrace you heritage and be a positive influence in your community.
You define who you are!! |
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peanuthead
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You are legally a citizen.
Lets try and take it step further to try and understand the difference. May or may not be your personal situation but helps open the view for understanding. If 2 white Swedish people legally immigrated to Africa and immediately had a child that was a citizen.....does that make the child "African" in every sense of the word?
Do you find very many legal white African born citizens moving to America as legal immigrants and becomming citizens distinguishing themselves as African-Americans?
In a way you essentially are a new immigrant because you're parents are new and adjusting as well and teaching and learning along the way with you. Does it make you less than? No. But do you truely observe and understand and embrace every aspect of the British culture? Maybe yes, but probably not as much as your child will. (if you aren't trying to keep the total Spanish culture alive and doing it to keep the British way out.) I say that not to be disrespectful but from what I see happening in my own country. We have "citizens" here who are no more "American" than an alien from outerspace. They burn our flag, refuse to speak our language, wouldn't eat a hot dog, apple pie or play baseball and watch a cowboy movie if their life depended on it. Hate George Washington, don't have a clue who John Wayne is and are "offended" by everything American. They hate our laws, hate our lifestyle, hate our citizens and want to change it all. But they are legal citizens. Are they American? Yes...legally. But not really.
Kind of like the guy who is legally married but wants to live the life of a single guy. Paper says it's so....spirit doesn't. |
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The Patriot
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No. You are born and bred here. So you are a UK national, if you choose to be.
Put it this way, do you feel that Spain is your home, or the UK?
When it comes to being 'proper' if it depends on parentage, what about grandparents? How far should the family lineage go back?
Remember the royal family are essentially German. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/albert_prince.shtml
And Greek. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh |
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cleo the pussycat
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well if thats the case im half-immigrant, yey! |
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jack.marlinspike
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The Duke of Wellington, who was born in Dublin, when challenged over his heritage, the other person asserted that he was Irish because of his place of birth, he replied "If a dog is born in a stable, it does not make him a horse. "
People from closely related Northern European stock, such as German and Scandanavian countries could over several generations become assimilated into British culture and could legitimately call themselves British. |
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