"illegal immigrants' supposedly get help from government? Oh really?!?
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"illegal immigrants' supposedly get help from government? Oh really?!?
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Ok let's set this straight, where do you all get your information?
If the "illegal immigrants" get government assistance for real, tell me how they do it? You have to have valid SSN to receive benefits and if you are here illegally how do you have a SSN? My fiance is a so called 'illegal immigrant" and he works everyday and each year pays his taxes with an ITIN, well last year I got laid off and his job slowed so I went to apply for food stamps. Well, guess what, he didn't qualify because of his status but, his income did, so I couldn't get any assistance, yet I know Americans with the same or less # of family members and the same income who receive Food stamps and medicaid, so explain that. If you know where and how they do it, tell me because we are having a hard time at this moment and since all of the other immigrants are supposedly getting government money why not my fiance, too? Additional Details the social services office verifies each and every SSn that comes through their system it is the government and the conputers are all connected
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GreasyTony
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Funny how Willam O wants to get things straight with you, but he never provides links to his so-called sources.....LOL
One person said Anchor baby, so now they all say it, but they can't explain how the parents benefit from services to the baby, and not them? It doesn't make sense!!!!! So does that mean that the parents are eating and drinking all the baby formula the baby is entitled to?.......LOL
Here's the truth about Benefits to illegals:
http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/article.cfm/undocumented_assumptions
Eligibility requirements were further tightened in 1996 when Congress passed (and President Clinton signed) the welfare-reform law known as the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act. From then on, only citizens or legal immigrants, such as those with a Green Card, were eligible for federal benefits.
Federal law also bars states and local governments from extending those benefits to undocumented immigrants.
Benefits for the Undocumented: the Exceptions
Few, narrow exceptions apply. For example, undocumented immigrants are eligible for certain emergency medical treatments. They may receive short-term disaster relief. They may be immunized against communicable diseases. They may be served at soup kitchens or seek refuge in homeless shelters. Children of undocumented immigrants may attend public schools. But those same children are not eligible for the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which covers children of the working poor not eligible for Medicaid. |
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Cracker
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I actually married into a family with tons of illegal relatives. They ALL use food stamps. ALL of their kids are getting free medical care through medicaid.ALL of the adults go to the emergency room when they are sick. They don't pay for a doctors visit. ALL of their kids go to school. And NONE of them pat taxes!!!!!!! |
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The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
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Some of them, a lot of them that is, steal them from someone here legally or just make a forged document |
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luckymom
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2 words:
Anchor Baby
There is no such thing as "so called" illegal immigrant. Your fiance is a criminal and you are disgrace. Educate yourself!!!!
Edit: He is. He broke the law. My husband is an immigrant too. But he is legal. He didn't get here easily. Just like your fiance, my husbands life would have been hard in his country. He waited his turn to come here. Your fiance might be a great person. But that doesn't change the fact that he is here illegally. That he is stealing opportunities from others. Believe it or not, I do feel sorry for him. But it doesn't change how angry I am that he came here illegally.
And what makes you and your family any more deserving than other families? It's the self entitled "i'm above the law" attitude that makes people so angry. Get over yourself. |
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Rizzo The Cleaner
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I hear you, but my question is do their kids qualify if they are born here? Probably. I see it in the food lines at the grocery stores. The guy pays cash for some things (paid in cash at his under the table job), and the mother or wife pulls out government vouchers to pay for the rest of the groceries. |
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William O
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Ok let's set this straight, where do you all get your information?
{I get my information from the FBI who states that 58% of welfare payments go to illegal aliens along with 60% of HUD housing,41% of unemployment payments, 43% of food stamps, etc. Where do you get your information? La Racist?}
If the "illegal immigrants" get government assistance for real, tell me how they do it? You have to have valid SSN to receive benefits and if you are here illegally how do you have a SSN?
{they steal it! Forge it, etc. Theses are criminals we are talking about here NOT saints!}
My fiance is a so called 'illegal immigrant" and he works everyday {he committed 2 felonies to work in the US} and each year pays his taxes with an ITIN {another felony! It's a felony to pay taxes on wages with an ITIN! An ITIN is for investment income only!}, well last year I got laid off and his job slowed so I went to apply for food stamps. Well, guess what, he didn't qualify because of his status but, his income did, so I couldn't get any assistance, yet I know Americans with the same or less # of family members and the same income who receive Food stamps and medicaid, so explain that {have him steal himself some paperwork!}. If you know where and how they do it, tell me because we are having a hard time at this moment and since all of the other immigrants are supposedly getting government money why not my fiance, too? {because he didn't realize he needed to steal or get forged paperwork? Millions of other illegal aliens know how!}
Additional Details
the social services office verifies each and every SSN that comes through their system it is the government and the conputers are all connected. {BULL CR@P! The SSA will not give out that information so as not to violate the privacy of the criminals using stolen or false SSNs}
i don't know where rizzo and Cracker live but, in GA you can't get benefits for yourself unless you have a VALID SSN and as for the children well of course but, what are they? American citizens! Most of the Illegal Immigrants don't have "paid under the table jobs" they have Tax ID and pay taxes unlike a lot of the Americans who work in construction work stealing American jobs!
{Where do you get your information? The SPLC(Society for the Propagationn of Loathsomeme Criminals? The FBI states that 62% of illegal aliens are working for cash and paying no taxes! Add in the number in prison (we have almost twice as many low life Mexicans in US prisons than Mexico has low life Mexicans in their prisons! Then drug dealers, coyotes, etc. who pay no taxes! And the ones who do pay taxes usually claim multiple children so they pay little or no taxes and if they have the right SSN they steal EITC from the government}
lucky mom my fiance is not a criminal he is a great man who is working hard to give us a life we deserve, yes he came here illegally but, that was after he tried for 5 years to get at first a student visa to study here and ten just a regular visa and was denied for different reasons 1 time they told him if you pay me a little you could get it easier, he needed to work and had no choice it was either come illegally or starve in Mexico.
{He entered illegally which is a felony, Uses an ITIN to pay taxes on wages which is another felony, he had to have committed at least 2 felonies to get a job in the US. That's 4 felonies right there! That makes him a criminal! "he needed to work and had no choice it was either come illegally or starve in Mexico." If you believe that I have some beautiful ocean front property here in AZ I can sell you cheap!}
Now he works everyday and is supporting 2 kids that aren't his paying in full food, medical bills , everything and does nothing to get in trouble, H**l he doesn't even drive because he has no license
{Now he continues to commit felonies by working illegally! Try dealing in realities! He's a criminal who should be deported!}
{FYI the penalty for aiding, abetting and/or harboring an illegal alien is 5 years federal prison! Then you won't have to worry about the 2 kids because he'll be back in Mexico, you'll be in prison and the kids will be in a foster home without criminals! Have an ICE day!} |
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Micky....the resurrection
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Yes, really. They steal identities and they have tons of anchor babies who are eligible for all sorts of benefits,paid for by the tax paying citizens of this country. Your criminal fiance is not eligible and you should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to take our tax money to support him. What you really need is psychiatric help,not my tax dollars. |
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B__O__M__B__S__H__E__L__L
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THE SANCTUARY STATE--that if you can sneak into America, the Angeleno's will keep illegal immigrants afloat with all the welfare they can collect? It 's not a joke to realize that since Proposition 187 that was derailed--never meant to be decided in the Supreme court , illegal aliens have been able take from legal people $$billions$$ in social services, thanks to the mainly Liberal Sacramento Assembly. Then their is Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) is available to illegal immigrants even if they do not have a valid Social Security number. The EITC Earned Income Tax Credit is the most accessible of the major entitlement programs and used by more people than food stamps or Medicare and is badly abused to the tune of $47 billion dollars, without paying in a cent into the system. In California taxes have risen to one of the highest in the land, through forced mandates of our government. Think about it? If you are in the low income bracket with a large family as many illegal immigrants seem to have, that family receives an average of $30,000 in governmental benefits! Yet they pay only about $9,000 in taxes per year. That creates a $21,000 shortfall that the American taxpayer has to make up according to the Heritage Foundation. |
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Carol W
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I agree with "anchor baby". The US is the only country where 2 illegals can make a legal. How about that? And as the custodian of said legal child, one would be eligible for welfare, food stamps, medicaid, etc.. for the child who has a very real SS number. And as custodian of this child, one would probably be issued a government ID number similar to SS # but not but legal to collect welfare.
American citizens have no say in this. We hate it. We would all vote against that law that makes anybody born here a citizen if we could.
Oh, and 'YOU GO WILLIAM O" YAY! for saying it like it is!! Right ON! |
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m.a.i.i.
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william o and luckymom said it best, this is why cali. is going bankrupt, what about the free education illegals and children of illegals receive, their free lunches, who is paying for this. not the little bit of taxes your illegal man is paying in. |
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legal lover :)
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I believe the other posters have shown already how they do it. They use their anchor baby children to drain the welfare for every penny they can get. They drain tax payers at schools, hospitals, prisons etc. There is nobody starving in mexico, no more so then right here in the U.S. and it is those citizens where my concern lies. |
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Loretta C
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last summer i lost my job. i had to go to the food stamp office to get help. if i didn't have my kids to worry about i would not have bothered. anyway. while i was sitting there waiting for the worker to call me in. a family came in. she had no papers showing she was legal. she was holding a baby, her teen age child was doing all the talking for her. she couldn't speak a word in english. oh and she was pregnant again. they helped her. in the form we have to fill out it says it does not matter if they are legal or not, they will not turn anyone away that is needing help. but yet we have old people here who are eating cat or dog food because they can't afford food with their retirement checks the govt gives them every month. i saw this with my own eyes and heard this with my ow ears. |
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foaagain
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ok you dont live in california
most assistance is healthcare and schools
if you really are planning to marry this guy you need to apply for a fiance visa |
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mlo11
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If the Mexican Government did **** the right way no one would be crossing the borders. I agree with some responses and with others I totally disagree. But anyways the Mexican President is a whole bunch of boloni. |
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jackie
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In order to receive assistance from the government.
YOU HAVE TO be a LEGAL RESIDENT.
HELLO |
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Unicorn
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Bride2be, you are right. Anyone who receives government benefits must have a valid SSN. But I believe you could get food stamps for your children. Good luck |
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LeighAnn D
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Exactly! You have to have a valid SSN to apply.Also say if that SSN was stolen,then the name and # wouldn't match up and they would deny the person.
For the first poster, yes a illegal can apply for and receive benefits for their US born citizen children,but they will not get any for themselves if they are illegal! Hmmmm,maybe you need to educate yourself! |
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jerry 101
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o.k. for all you no it alls on this forum,if all these illegals can't get gov't benefits ,then why is it that they all drive brand new vehicles,and can put $3000.00 into two slot machines at the casino and play $3.00 spins ,where do they get their money workin' these $8.00 an hour jobs that the american citizen refuses to do ? huh, tell me idiots........ |
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