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Points on your driving licence?

my 17 yr old son has been caught speeding so incurrred 3 points, then got stopped by the police for driving over double white line and has now got to produce all documents at the local police station, he has got a slip of paper with a fixed penalty notice so is this automatically another 3 points and lost of his driving licence
any advice would be great
thanks
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its his car and his own insurance, did not want a lecture just advice thanks to the people who gave advice and bogof to the rest


    




lizziebeth
Driving over a solid white line is illegal & dangerous therefore he will most likely get 3 more points. With 6 points on his licence within the first 2 years of passing his test - he will have his full licence revoked and will return to provisional licence, which will require re-taking theory test and driving test. Of course he will suffer the consequences for much longer as he will be also required to pay much more for insurance.


Bardic
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Notwithstanding the rants and pontifications on here, yes, the fixed penalty notice does carry a further 3 points (plus a fine).

You're entitled, if you so wish, to decline the fpn and go to court instead, though I wouldn't hold out any hopes for a better outcome.

Looks like your son will need to apply for a new provisional licence and go through the whole rigmarole, L plates, accompanying driver etc., until he takes and passes his tests again


popeye
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Six points within the first two years after passing the driving test results in an immediate ban. His best option is to prove that he had to cross the double white line due to an obstruction that could not possibly be avoided by any other means (for example he may have believed that an animal had just run across his path and he was trying to avoid it, difficult for the old Bill to disprove, particularly if it was dark). Obviously I do not condone telling porkies to the police, but if that was hypothetically the case then he may be let off with a caution. Other than that he will get banned. I suggest that when he gets his licence back he takes part in advanced driving training, or at least buys the police motorcyclists handbook (yes I know that it is for bikes but the instructions are simply superb) from the HMSO and puts into practice the contents. I did so years ago and have regularly updated my skills since and have a completely clean driving record over 22 years of driving. I don't drive like a saint but I do drive safely.

I wish him the best of luck. Hopefully the ban will make him realise how easy it is for his licence to be taken away. It is just as easy for someone to get seriously injured by bad driving, so he needs to reflect on what has happened, regardless of bans or anything else.


Andy
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Time to get rid of the car and get back on his bike, He's going to have his licence revoked because he's got 6 or more points in the first 2 years of driving. He will have to resit his driving teast.


Perfectionist
i think it will be on his licence
its best if you speak to the police and the dvla they will give you more advice on the situation

i think if he gets more than 6 points in the first two years he will have to retake both his theory and pratical tests


creviazuk
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Really, he didn't learn much from the FIRST penalty - and obviously thinks/thought breaking the law is OK. Maybe this will make him realise that a licence is a PRIVILEGE not a right.

ps. He'll have more trouble being insured (£1000's), will have to re-sit EVERYTHING - including his theory.

Best advice is don't let him near a vehicle for a couple of years - obviously FAR too immature to be out on the roads.

In the UK - for the first 2 years you only have 6 points - after that you have 12 points (stay on for 3 years)


harveymycat
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you are allowed up to 6 points in first 2 years i think ,so he gets his licence taken away automatically.will have to sit both tests again and will find it very hard to get insured again.legally speaking you cant get round it unless the police cant prove he was driving the car if he got caught speeding with a speed camera.


washerl
you have to specify about the speed it was a fixed camera or
was patrol car?
you may have solution if was a fixed camera.


JetDoc
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Buy him a bicycle. Six points and loss of license will send your insurance rates through the roof! Not to mention that he will probably need to file an SR-22 (High-risk liability) insurance policy before he can get his license back.

Your best bet, financially, is to remove your son from any current vehicle insurance policies you may have, and let him buy his own car and separate insurance policy when he turns 18.


david b
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it's idiots like him that crash and kill all their mates. we'll all be better off if he's banned for life. you wanna kick he @ss into touch before you have to bury him.


stomper
he will get another 3 points and lose his licence


wiseyellowplum
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ground hi maybeee...


Strider
If he was given an endorsable ticket which would say that he has to surrender his licence then yes. there should be a section half way down the ticket requiring the licence information and stating if the Licence was surrendered at the scene of the offence.
If hes just been given a Fixed Penalty Notice and not the above its just a fine. The offence that he has committed does require an endorsable ticket so the Police Office is required to ask him at the time if he has any points and then if the officer knows the law or is switched on would advice the young man that due to him being a new driver (and 6 points is the maximum for that) the likely hood is that he will loose his licence. Though if the Police Officer didn't explain this they may have issued the wrong ticket.


kitty
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THERE IS A BOOK THAT DMV SELLS FOR 5-6 DOLLARS THAT TELL YOU HOW TO BEAT A TICKET IF ANYTHING IS MISSPELLED ON THE TICKET YOU CAN HAVE IT THROWN OUT AND DROPPED EVEN IF THE POLICE SHOW UP IN COURT I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO GET HIM AN OLD CAR AN JUST PUT LIB ON IT SO INSURANCE IS LOWER I KNOW THIS MUST BE KILLING YOU IN INSURANCE THEN DEPENDING ON WHEN THE POINTS WERE PUT ON HIS LICENSE I THINK IT TAKES 3 YRS BEFORE SOME DROP OFF HE CAN GET A RESTRICTED LICENSE OR JUST MAYBE HE SHOULDN'T DRIVE FOR A WHILE LET HIM TAKE THE BUS FOR A LITTLE WHILE MAYBE HE WILL LEARN TO HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR DRIVING TELL HIM DRIVING IS A PRIVILEGES NOT TO ABUSE IT OR HE WILL CONTINUE TO GET TICKETS AND POINTS THE POINTS WILL FALL OFF IN 3 YRS UNTIL THEN HE WILL HAVE HIGH INSURANCE MAKE HIM GET A JOB AND PAY FOR HIS PART THAT MIGHT TEACH HIM A LESSON NOT TO DO IT AGAIN


John & Shona C
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kick his butt and re teach him driving.

his licence is gone!

sorry to say





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