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Your opinions on this car accident scenario please?

A car scrapes along the side of another car whilst overtaking on the left hand side, it fails to stop and drives on.
The scraped car follows the offending car in order to get reg plate details, before the driver can do so the offending car slams on breaks to avoid being flashed by speed camera, the following car does not have enough time to stop and smashes in to rear of other car.
Both cars were speeding at the time of the accident. Who is at fault?


    




Tiger01204
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It's the scraped car's fault as they ran into the back of the 'offending car'. That's the law.


janetlouise24
I would like to say the Driver that was getting chased is at fault as he drove away from the accident. But that's not the case the driver in the rear should have left enough gap as is taught in driving lessons. The fact is they could have followed at a reasonable speed and got the plate when they stopped at traffic lights. Sorry....


rja_agent
The car that overtook on the left hand side is guilty of undertaking, as well as the damage that he causaed in doing so. the car that then gave chase and then hit the car infront is guilty of that accident because he was driving without due care and attention and driving too close to the car in front to stop. Both cars would be guilty of speeding should they be caught for doing so.


neogriff
the car that drove into the back of the other one is at fault. they should have kept a safe distance behind the car in front. there is no argument in rear impact cases, if you hit someone from behind its your fault.


girl from oz
The car in the rear is always at fault in a "rear-ender".


oadbywonder
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Lock um all up


BigBoy
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other car is at fault for scrape on the side

the scraped car is at fault for running up the back of the other car

insurance companies will not see it any other way unless you can prove the other car slammed on its brakes to cause an accident - even then it will be difficult to prove as the car following should have left enough space should the car in front need to do an emergancy stop.

the other car may be prosecuted for leaving the scene of an accident though


Old Fart
Never drive at such a speed that you cannot stop within the distance you see to be clear.

No if`s or but`s, simple and straight forward.
The undertaking and the scraping has nothing to do with one car running into another, the fact that the following car driver was driving up close behind in order to read a number plate shows the driver was not driving with due care and attention, was driving too close to stop and was an accident waiting to happen.


budda m
Hope you have witnesses!

Your both liable the only difference is how much trouble your going to get in to with the police. For the other driver "leaving the scene of an accident" does carry heavy penalty. You could both get "reckless endangerment", "driving without due care",

You weren't flashed by the cameras were you?

So were you in middle of outer lane and they undertook you??


Chris
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This is two accidents of course. The first one from the scraping, which is the fault of the passing vehicle. The second one is the fault of the car that did the rear-ending. You must travel at a safe speed and following distance so that if the car in front of you stops for any reason you can avoid a rear-end collision.


pmca_dub
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There are two offences here. First offence is on behalf of the over taking car, because while over taking it made contact with another and kept driving off. Second offence is on behalf of the car following to get the reg number because first of all both shouldn't be speeding but even still the car behind should always be aware of the car ahead slowing down suddenly or stopping and should keep the proper distance.


les l
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car at the rear is at fault you must leave enough distance between vehicles so you can stop safely when the unexpected happens now you have stopped get the details of the offending driver re "scrapes" offence


desert_kats
the person who rear ended the car in front is. doesn't matter if both speeding, only way car in rear not at fault is if the car in front stopped dead and has a habit of doing that.


Martin14th
Failing to stop after an accident is an offence, how the accident came about is up to others to decide, there are several reasons why you could be over taken on the left in Uk, not only one way streets, slow moving traffic on motorway/dual carriageway etc. How the vehicles came to collide is the question, did the car being "undertaken" move left deliberately?

As to the rear end shunt, car following is totally at fault, 6 points possibly, big insurance rise next year likely, speed is irellevant


Goggie
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Both Of Them


Peter V
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Both of you were breaking the law,so the second part of this accident was the following drivers fault


CowboyBill
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First loss...him. Second loss...you (idiot)


assassin
both are at fault


klute2006
Guy in front for the scrape, guy behind for the right-off.


Gerard McCarthy
Unfortunately the driver of the rear car.


witheringtonkeith
if you go into the back of some one regardless off what happend you are indeed at at falt know question asked sorrry bad boy!


Pit Bull
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First car to blame for the initial incident, but the second car is to blame for the "shunt".
It's very difficult if not impossible to prove that running into the back of something is not your fault.


tonyinspain
sorry but its the car that hit the front car thats to blame crap i know but thats the law and in reality you both should not be speeding also even if your giving chase you still keep your distance .


ronpad@btinternet.com
Both of you. It is not an offence to overtake on the inside but you are automatically at fault if you do so.

If you run into the back of another car you were driving too close, guilty.

Suggest you shake hands and walk away.


c.j.davies
The car behind - didnt leave enough space in front.


barneyboomagoo
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Overtaking on the left ? If this is a UK question then no car should be overtaking on the left. I would say that the car overtaking on the left was at fault for the scrape but the insurance company may think differently.
Without a doubt it is always the car that hits the rear of the other car that is at fault.
The police may also have something to say with regard to speed, leaving the scene of the accident (scape) etc.


stewiegriffin4president
You both are. The scraper is at fault for scraping car #2 while passing. Driver of car #2 is at fault for following too closely and running into the back of the scraper. And NEITHER of you should have left the scene of the first accident!


iwalker500
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incident not accident, was the car turning right when it was overtaken on the left, thats the only time anyone can overtake on the left, chaseing another car at speed is stupid, even if they did wrong, following far enough to take v r m, would be enough, if you ran into the rear you are at fault to close,


Loollea
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the first car is at fault for the scrape the second car is at fault for following too close even though they had a good excuse, report all to the insurance company and let them work it out


Stu
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It's 50-50. The offending car's damage to the scraped car is the offending driver's fault; the law requires that the scraped car is responsible for hitting the rear of the offending car.





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