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Can a cop make you get back in your car and put your keys in your ignition once you're out?

This has happened to a few friends of mine:

They were doing nothing wrong, maybe going a BIT too fast but nothing outrageous. Didn't realize they were being pulled over because they were driving down their OWN street pulling into THEIR OWN driveway, and the cop was way down the street. (or something of that sort) when the cop pulled into their driveway, when they were already out of their cars about to walk into the house... When the cop starts screaming at them to get back into the car and put their keys into the igition. So of course they did, but is that legal?


    




Blue Steel & Lace
There appears to be a something missing from the story, but it sounds as though the officer viewed their actions as evading.


kapute2
it's very legal, I hope you comply if that ever happens to you


cabron o
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If you are being pulled over, YOU SHALL NEVER AND I REPEAT NEVER!!! get out of the car until you are told by the officer, regardless of the position of the officer. The officer's actions were ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! and your friend's ABSOLUTELY STUPID!


speedysundevil
something does not jive here, I can't think of a reason a cop would as someone to put their keys back IN the ignition.


wuxxler
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Legal? Of course. Why would it be illegal for a cop to tell someone to do something that is not illegal?
It also would have been legal for your friends to refuse.
Not too smart, but legal.


pedohunter1488
Cops never tell anyone to put the keys in the ignition. Tell your speed addicted friends to slow down.


Sir Hard & Thick
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the reason they have you put the keys back in the ignition is because if they have drugs or alcohol in their system our on their position it is now a DUI and it goes to a felony stop and the city will impound your car and sell it. Most police would be criminals if they were'nt cops. I have been run out of town by a police officer, when I was younger I used to by pot from a kid we all knew in school and his dad was a local cop, and one day we went to his house to buy some pot and right in the middle of the hole thing his dad walks in and sees the pot and flips out, the only thing his son could think of to say was he was buying it from me. I was never charged with anything but was continuly harrassed and not only by him but by his fellow officers, they took my picture and used to show it to victims of crimes and ask if it could have been me who did it, he pulled me over one time on my moped stomped off my tailpipe broke all my lights and wrote me a ticket. and then found me at a partie and put me in his car and took me into a bad part of SA for a white boy to be in and kicked the crap out of me,and let me out with no money or anything, and then he finally just flat out told me one night he was going to kill me the first chance he got, and he ment it so I moved out of my house and moved to the next city over. don't kid yourself cops are just people and a lot of people are just plain mean, in fact living in los angeles a car load of crips makes me less afraid then having a cop car behind me, and no I not afraid because I'm a crminal, I was terrorized by the cops, they are in fact nothing but a big gang of their own, once a cop all your friends are cops and all you do is bleed blue!!


fr_chuck
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Yes, he can order them to remain back in thier car ( the igition thing was silly and optional) but yes it is very reasonable to keep them contained in the car.
1 he did not know this was "thier" home, maybe they were making a slow run for it, or trying to act like they were not speeding. You would be surprised how many people pull into someone elses drive and try to act like they were not driving


robbocop
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Why would it be illegal? A traffic stop is basically a non-custodial arrest. In other words, you are NOT free to leave. You are being detained by the police. In my state, if you do not comply with an officer's instructions on a traffic stop and try to leave, you can be charged with resisting arrest. It then becomes a custodial arrest, and you go to jail.

As a matter of officer safety you may be ordered to stay in the car, exit the car, keep you hands visible, etc. I don't understand why the officer told them to put the keys in the ignition. Even if the driver had pepper spray or another personal protection device on the key ring that would make the officer perceive a threat, he should have told them to place the keys on the ground out of reach; not in the ignition.

Of course there are a certain amount of people who hate the police so much that they will tell you everything that the police does is illegal and a violation of civil rights. These people are basically ignorant and out of touch with reality and should not be trusted.


OceanUnit405
He is detaining them to deal with the speeding issue, so yes, that is legal. He can have them get back in their car.


briscoeboys
8 - ßăļļ is a little wrong there. some cops do some things illegallty. I hate it when people accuse all police officers for something that only a few paople do.

Anyway, that's not illegal. the story doesn't sound complete. Why would an officer have someone go back into the car, where he can't see what's happening, to put keys INTO the ignition. maybe to take them out.... but...........


edukateme_not
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Well, the cops can't really make anyone do anything if ya think about it. But not cooperating only makes you look guilty, no matter what the situation. Whatever the cop asks you to do is pretty much 'legal', because he told you to do it. But, they've got to have reasonable suspicion or cause to do so. If someone is outside their car when the police arrive, it makes the officer feel threatened, so asking them to go back into their vehicles only helps for the safety of the police officer.


bbasingal
The short answer is, yes that is legal. Your friends own a street? Generally, that is public property, not private.

Because your friends didn't pull over right away as required by law, the officer may have felt they were attempting to elude him.

Here's what the State of Illinois statutes says regarding this issue (link below):

(625 ILCS 5/Ch. 11 Art. II heading)
ARTICLE II. OBEDIENCE TO AND EFFECT
OF TRAFFIC LAWS

(625 ILCS 5/11-203) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11‑203)
Sec. 11-203. Obedience to police officers. No person shall wilfully fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order or direction of any police officer, fireman, or school crossing guard invested by law with authority to direct, control, or regulate traffic. Any person convicted of violating this Section is guilty of a petty offense and shall be subject to a mandatory fine of $150.
(Source: P.A. 90-749, eff. 1‑1‑99.)


(625 ILCS 5/11-204) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-204)
Sec. 11-204. Fleeing or attempting to elude a peace officer.
(a) Any driver or operator of a motor vehicle who, having been given a visual or audible signal by a peace officer directing such driver or operator to bring his vehicle to a stop, wilfully fails or refuses to obey such direction, increases his speed, extinguishes his lights, or otherwise flees or attempts to elude the officer, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. The signal given by the peace officer may be by hand, voice, siren, red or blue light. Provided, the officer giving such signal shall be in police uniform, and, if driving a vehicle, such vehicle shall display illuminated oscillating, rotating or flashing red or blue lights which when used in conjunction with an audible horn or siren would indicate the vehicle to be an official police vehicle. Such requirement shall not preclude the use of amber or white oscillating, rotating or flashing lights in conjunction with red or blue oscillating, rotating or flashing lights as required in Section 12‑215 of Chapter 12.
(b) Upon receiving notice of such conviction the Secretary of State shall suspend the drivers license of the person so convicted for a period of not more than 6 months for a first conviction and not more than 12 months for a second conviction.
(c) A third or subsequent violation of this Section is a Class 4 felony.
(Source: P.A. 93-120, eff. 1-1-04.)


(625 ILCS 5/11-204.1) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-204.1)
Sec. 11-204.1. Aggravated fleeing or attempt to elude a peace officer.
(a) The offense of aggravated fleeing or attempting to elude a peace officer is committed by any driver or operator of a motor vehicle who flees or attempts to elude a peace officer, after being given a visual or audible signal by a peace officer in the manner prescribed in subsection (a) of Section 11-204 of this Code, and such flight or attempt to elude:
(1) is at a rate of speed at least 21 miles per hour
over the legal speed limit;

(2) causes bodily injury to any individual;
(3) causes damage in excess of $300 to property; or
(4) involves disobedience of 2 or more official
traffic control devices.

(b) Any person convicted of a first violation of this Section shall be guilty of a Class 4 felony. Upon notice of such a conviction the Secretary of State shall forthwith revoke the driver's license of the person so convicted, as provided in Section 6‑205 of this Code. Any person convicted of a second or subsequent violation of this Section shall be guilty of a Class 3 felony, and upon notice of such a conviction the Secretary of State shall forthwith revoke the driver's license of the person convicted, as provided in Section 6‑205 of the Code.
(c) The motor vehicle used in a violation of this Section is subject to seizure and forfeiture as provided in Sections 36-1 and 36-2 of the Criminal Code of 1961.
(Source: P.A. 93-120, eff. 1-1-04.)

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=062500050HCh%2E+11+Art%2E+II&ActID=1815&ChapAct=625%26nbsp%3BILCS%26nbsp%3B5%2F&ChapterID=49&ChapterName=VEHICLES&SectionID=59614&SeqStart=96400&SeqEnd=98400&ActName=Illinois+Vehicle+Code%2E

Hope this helps.


Kevy
i always tell them to stay in the car and if i feel i am at risk of starting a chase ill ask them to either toss the keys out of the window or put them on the dash. we dont like it when people are outside of the car unless we want them to be, its dangerous.


ODDONE
They must have been drunk why would he say put them in your ignition that is strange. If your in your car and you are drunk and you don't have the keys in the Ignition it is no crime. Now if your sitting in your car with the keys in the ignition then they can charge you with DUI even if your just sitting in the car.


skcs11
never heard of that before


Ken C
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Huh? Never heard of that before. Did they ask the officer why?


slick
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lol ok never heard that one but ok the police have all the right to tell you to do that but if the are doing you /your friend complain


open4one
They probably wanted to keep everyone "under control" without putting them into the police car. The keys in the ignition thing is a bit strange, and even a bit stupid, unless there's some technicality of the law that removes the officer's jurisdiction if they get out of the car and take the keys.

Basically, when a cop starts to scream at you, it's a good idea to do what he says. It could be mistaken identity and they think you're someone dangerous, and it could be Barney Fife wanting to stop an international illegal parking ring, and is willing to use deadly force to do it.


anglesfan93308
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Yea, it's called being in control of a situation and is good Officer safety. Does not matter if it is on their OWN street, which is not actually their street it is a public street, or their driveway. Try doing the speed limit next time.

Remember, the Officer has no idea why someone is speeding. It could be as simple as they are driving HUA (head up a%#) or they just committed a violent felony.


Sean
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Hard to imagine it would be.


Sylvia L
Put the keys back in the ignition??? Now I can see a cop telling someone to get back in the vehicle, but to tell them to put the keys back in the ignition??? I don't think it's illegal, but kind of stupid on the cops part. Somethings not making sense.


8 - ßăļļ
cops make up their own rules depending on how much they think they can get away with.


121aloraphotos
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NO< NO< and more NO it is not LEGAL. and that goes for all free countries.





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