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How are companies able to give their employees random drug tests?

It should be illegal to give random drug tests. What people do in the privacy of their own home should not be tested. It is a voilation of the 4th amendmant and I can not stand companies that practice that. How do they get away with it?


    




Chaoticfreedoms
They get away with it by YOU signing a form at the beginning of your employment that says your ok with it. It is a condition of employment by most companies.

I suggest if you don't like it study the employers requirements before hand and be sure to read the fine print. If it is a condition with the company your applying to then dump the application and find other work...


caballero5792
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two things.
1) people are working on the firm's property so the firm has the right to test people in order to prevent lawsuits from accidents caused by people in a drugged state
2) people shouldn't be doing drugs


gwhatch2001
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Some companies make you agree to random drug testing as a condition of employment. If you don't agree you don't get hired.


crookmatt
Because companies have their employees sign an agreement allowing them to give random drug tests. If someone refuses to sign the agreement, they are not hired to begin with.

It IS legal to require an agreement, which you have the free will to refuse to sign, before hireing an employee.


♥ ♥Be Happi♥ ♥
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If they hired you stating that the environment were drug free, and that random drug testing would be used, then that is the way it is.

Often due to what type of business it is, heavy machinery, driving a vehicle, etc, that is what their insurance carriers instruct them to do.

If you don't do drugs it shouldn't matter, if you do, find another job! Pretty simple, my work is done here!


†Absinthe†
If what people do in the privacy of their own homes is illegal, then the drug tests are more than justified.


STEVEN F
The 4th amendment places limits on the government. Private companies could not violate it if they wanted to. They NEVER force you to take a drug test. You ALWAYS have the option of not working for the company.


Reston
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Because they can. The 4th Ammendment only applies to government searches, it is not applicable to private parties. I take a bus and train weekly, I expect them to test the drivers.


mommy
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So, the person selling cocaine out of the privacy of their own home is well within the rights of the 4th ammendment? Or the neighbor downstairs that cooks meth everyday that seeps into your child's lungs is doing it legally because they are doing it in their own home? Think about what you are asking. You are saying that just because someone uses in their own home it should be ok, and not testable? What about the guy (or girl) that beats the living day lights out of their significant other? If its at home, it's ok right? Back to your question, they can test you. More often it states in the ad that it is a drug free employer. Some applications even have it on there. When you go through your orientation process, they give you the company policy regarding drug use. You accept the position, you accept the tests. You dont, start pounding the pavement, because the offer has been withdrawn.


blu_raven_13
you sing something when you are hired.. usually a handbook or something like that with the policy... now they have the power... so you would want some guy that smoked a joint or did a line to come to work... say you were a firefighter or a cop?


Stanley Fishbien
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It`s none of the employer`s business if you gorge yourself with drugs at home , or wherever after work , or on weekends . There`s nothing legal an employer can do about it .

It IS the employer`s business if you are in the LEAST bit under the influence of drugs , coming down from a trip , or have illegal drugs , or traces of them in your body when you`re at work !
There`s a LOT an employer can do legally if they can prove you had any drugs or traces in your system while on the job .

And who can blame them ? You are paid to do a specific job in a manner that a knowledgeable , SOBER person would do it . If you have traces of drugs in your system , you`re NOT sober .

Not only that , you are a distinct danger to other employees if your job involves working with machinery , power tools , fork lifts etc .

What happens if you injure , maim , or kill someone at work because you took drugs the night before ? The company is in deep doo-doo at that point both legally , and with their insurance provider .

Do you think they`re going to risk drug-related accidents and lawsuits ? Not a chance !

It`s in NO WAY a violation of the 4th amendment , because you`ll never have an employer walk into your home with a drug testing kit . It`s totally illegal .

It`s not at all illegal for them to test you if you`ve signed an employment waiver giving them permission . Even after signing the waiver , you have every right to refuse the test . Of course , you`ll be out on the street looking for work 5 minutes later .

If you think it`s bad now .......... it won`t be long before you won`t even get a job cleaning toilets without first signing a drug test waiver .


BJ
No, what the person does in the privacy of their own home is illegal if that person is doing drugs.

Companies don't want a bunch of drug-using junkies working at their business.

Drugs are illegal, therefore, if you use drugs, you are not trustworthy nor are you honest. They don't want you as an employee.

And, no amendment to the Constitution protects illegal activity.


à®?Lil Bitchà®? (a.k.a. á?¦Snazzlefrazzá?¦)
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Usually employees are required to sign a waiver consenting to radom drug screens prior to employment.


Glen B
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Do you read the fine print? You may find the answer there.


Alexander B
Guess what you have the right to refuse but that is a reason to fire you. So you might as well take it it's not worth risking your job.


Loo
So what happens if you weren't originally supposed to take a random drug test. And then said company wants to make it a new rule, as a pre-hired employee can I refuse to sign the new handbook. And if so how would that affect me if I was hired before the new rule came about?





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