In the Good Old Days the Police did not get a complaint if they hit you.?

You must have all heard it in the good old days the Police did not mess about arresting youths for minor crimes ect they gave them a clip around the ear and that was it. To a degree that is right the police did just that and people accepted this also I recall walking into my home and mum said Bobby Elliot has been not another word just whack and I got a good hiding because Bobby Elliot had been to see her about whatever I did mum has now passed away and this was over 40 years ago and I still have no idea what I had done wrong. Is this why I am an honest person and have never had an issue with the police and never been arrested and I was taught to respect others and the police.
But today the police hit out and there is hell to pay people up in arms complaining about the police?
Being a former soldier who has served 7 tours in Northern Ireland my first in 1970 I know just what it is like to face an angry crowd in addition to a baton, baton gun and CS gas grenades I also had a 7.62 SLR (self loading rifle) and with all my training I still felt in danger and if anyone came close to getting in my personnel space I would hit out with my baton. Why should I or today the Police risk their own safety when they have equipment i.e. a baton to use, if you do not want the police to use such equipment why on earth issue them with it? I had a rifle and I was ready to use it if needed?
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Liz, you are wrong the police are trained to use it in all kinds of situations and they have differant strike areas such as the legs and arms in most cases a head strike is a no and would only be used if you were in real danger of death from the other person. Police officers are human and have all the fears that you and I have wearing a uniform and training does not take that fear away.
And like many who make comments about the police and force I would ask have you faced an angry crowd? If not in truth you have no idea.

John D

I agree totally. It was very unfortunate about the guy that died. He was obviously being mischievous and normally being struck on the leg and pushed over wouldn't kill you. The rest of the people that are complaining about it being peaceful! Why were City workers told to "dress down" Why were Banks and Financial Institutions boarded up? This was not a peaceful rally, this was some very naive people being used by others to riot.
It doesn't matter how much training you have had, if you have been physically and mentally abused all day when all you are doing is follow orders then from time to time you are going to get a reaction, rightly or wrongly. Anyone that is standing at the front of a demonstration pushing forward at the Police, in my opinion, get what they deserve. This should please some of the PC brigade and people brought up by Parents that didn't believe in corporal punishment.

SGT. D

The Good Old Days before misguided parents, bleeding heart judges and cut-throat defense lawyers.

MeatEater

I think the policeman who slapped the protester round the face was absolutely right to do so. The police were surrounded by an angry mob who were threatening and behaving no better than wild animals and deserved to be treated as such.
It seems, yet again, that there is one man behind the 'public outcry' Max Clifford. Give me political correctness over him any day, the man is evil and anyone who goes to him to sell their story should be ignored.

jeff k

In the good old days we had more respect for the police, we also followed the rules and bylaws of the land, we would never dare even think of dropping litter or riding our bicycles on the pavements, but now days people think it is their right to use the pavement as a cycle track, in the good old days the law was the law and that was an end to it.

brit_plod

I miss those days!

AJ Rimmer

political correctness!

All For Peace

Your thoughts have two sides to them. I too remember when the local bobby sorted things out 'his' way and had the respect of the community at large for it.

I think we could do with having those days back again.

On the other hand the fact that you were sent into Northern Ireland without adequate training on how to deal with facing danger and assessing the situation is absolutely frightening.

It would appear to have been the root of the problem at the G20 summit as well.

An ordinary man caught in the wrong place at the wrong time ended up dead. Not his fault.Ultimately it is society's fault for allowing such a situation to exist.

Maybe it will be the wake up call that gets heeded:although somehow I doubt it.

yakapov03

all these recent police violence incidents were on non violent protesters, if police can't handle being shouted at they shouldnt be in the job. If police think they can get away with it then they'll do it, im glad everyone has a camera to catch these thugs.

Julie B

Yes I understand what u are saying but they did'nt go round striking for no reason. That lady in the news this week who was struck with a baton at the back of her legs - totally unprovoked and that guy who died from internal bleeding from the police beating - that is way to much! There are too many police beatings coming out now. How many more do we still not know about??????????
That could be yr mum/dad or a member of yr family, how would u feel then???

kreekatt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkiyBVytRQ

sorry i had a better one but cannot find it

EDIT here it is , i wanted to show both sides but getting 5 thumbs down for a video for showing an officer who obviously lost his head and did the wrong thing shows how the community helps police put themselves and others in danger and risk lawsuits and anger and distrust from the community.

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/01/video-british-police-run-away-from-allah-akhbar-screaming-muslim-protesters.html

Liz L

There is a difference between a clip round the ear and a deadly baton strike. Police are trained to use a baton only if their own or other lives are in danger, i.e. if the aggressor has a knife. They are not supposed to use them just to subdue non-aggressive civilians. The G-20 demonstration was not a war, yet the police acted as if it were.

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