Isn't it hate crime to hang a nooose from a tree?

sharia_vigilant

Arenâ€™t hate crimes going to strip away more freedom from us Americans?

Ouchie

I think the point argued by the ongoing case is that the actual act of hanging a noose wasn't a 'physical act' of violence on or toward a specific person. Even though personally I think it's very hateful.

Pfo

It differs from place to place. You are freely allowed to display a swastika. However, displaying one on a church is a hate crime.

Don't beat someone up over hanging a noose. Two wrongs never made a right. Just tell the media, Sharpton and Jackson will be on their way in a minute.

Missi

Well Sh*t! Now because a noose alone is classified as a hate crime, there are going to be NO decorations on my pine tree for Halloween.

Give me a break. It's a hate crime is I say, "Hey black guy! This is for you!" or "you better get away from here white girl! Or you will be hanging from my noose."

And beating someone up because you see a noose is REALLY mature, you know.

A noose and cross burning, flag burning and so forth, are TOTALLY different from a single noose hanging from a tree.

I use to make a fake one for Halloween and put one of those animatronic ghouls in it. Am I committing a hate crime against electrical monsters? Damn, I'm going to jail now and this poster of this question is going to beat me up!

Ellie

Only if you can manage to persuade someone to put their head through it and pull it tight.

Fred Head

Aren't all crimes "hate" crimes. Who says, "I like you... so now I'm going to kill you"?

Michelle H

No. Its only a hate crime if you have someone hanging from it....or write slanderous things above the noose

rightwing65

Uh..Hello, McFly. What crime has been committed???

Eraserhead

No, it's not a hate crime. It may be a symbolic gesture, but hardly a crime. Freedom of expression.

*****

No, because without indications of who the noose is meant for, it is meaningless as far as the law is concerned.

beardog4314

I don't know if it should be more heavily prosecuted for the "hate" aspects, but a noose is a deadly weapon. If you found a large knife stuck into your front door one morning, would you consider it a threat on your life, or an acceptable expression of free speech?

captainfckinspalding2

A hate crime against who? The tree?

Rusty Shackelferd

no such thing as a hate crime its just liberal crap

Lisbeth

No, it's not a crime at all. Lots of people have been hung from a noose, just read about the old west and you will understand. What group is targeted with a noose? Cattle rustlers or horse thieves? Murderers? Those are typically the people who have been hung in the past.

"would feel that my life is in danger and i would take action on it weather it be beating someone" - what you are saying is that you would indeed commit a hate crime (beating on someone of another race because they are that color - after all, you don't honestly know who did it do you?) in order to retaliate against those whom you perceive to have committed a crime. That only makes things worse.

wykedguy

I know many police departments that document two types of cases related to this question. The first documentation is of a 'hate crime' in which the statute for that particular behavior has been violated. This usually consists of some a act of violence or property damage against specified groups. This is a clear criminal violation. The second documentation is of a 'hate motivated incident'. This is documenting an act toward a specified group that, in and of itself, does not include any statutorily criminal conduct. It is documented to memorialize the incident in the event these issues escalate. The reports can then be used, in their totality (meaning multiple reports put together) to prosecute someone who commits a 'hate crime'.

It wouldn't be a hate crime to simply hang a noose from a tree for everyone to see. It would be easy to assume why it is there. It would be hard to argue that it has only been used to hang a certain race or religion.

As far a convictions in court, its easiest to visualize it this way. On one side of a river is what happened, what we know it means, and who did it. On the other side is what can be legally proven in court beyond a reasonable doubt. The information has to be solid enough to bridge the gap from what we know to prosecution. It you can't build that bridge, in court, you can't prosecute it.

Just seeing a noose and then violently reacting is the type of activity that perpetuates the ignorance of the first act. Ignorance breeds ignorance. Go ahead and "take action on it", you will just become part of the problem.

sirbobby98121

In my opinion it is a direct reflection of the time in the US when Blacks were hung with little consequence to those
who hung them.

McLovin

no. Many hangmen use trees. Not just one race was hung by trees.

mel

it's inference is really dumb.

it happened in the south, what can you expect? these folks are crazy backwards. to be allowed to have a "white tree" is really, really idiotic.

The Barackalypse

it's not a hate crime. unless you put like a black manicin inside of it infront of a black church or something.

single occupant

The righties are loving the noose symbol.

One can only hope they do not go vigilante on us.

But these days, looking at the hatred and fear in their eyes, I fear for my children's future.

These are ugly times, and ugly men are feeling somewhere between empowered and frightened for themselves, which is never a good place for a lunatic to be.

Hekk..

what about freedom of speech...are you black..if not then nope no hate crime...good luck buy a gun...dont forget the bullets as well...guns need bullets...

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