Racial profiling?
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Racial profiling?
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You are an on-duty police officer for the town of Anywhere.
Your community has been struggling with a violence problem (mostly drug-related shootings & murders) for decades. More than 98% of the perpetrators are Caucasian males who wear polo shirts & khakis, drive European sedans, and play classical music on the car stereo. The crimes typically happen in the early evening near bookstores.
It is 7:00pm and you are only two blocks from a Barnes & Noble. You spot a 4-door BMW headed in the direction of the store and decide to follow. Upon approach, you see several Caucasian males inside the car. They are wearing polo shirts. Pachabel's Canon is clearly audible through the open sun-roof.
They have not commited a voilation of the law you have observed.
Is it racial profiling if you stop them?
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ragill_s1849
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Haha, good question, but no, it's not... in the UK, it would be classed as reasonable suspicion - something we've used for years. And that's what the Police would be using if they decided to stop/check/search these people - well, that and our powers of search, obviously. |
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sissy
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Yep, you could just observe them and make sure they don't rob the bookstore. There is no reason to ever stop a car full of people who are not doing anything wrong. |
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songndance1999
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Man you just described my town to a T. You should see those preppy boys in their Beamers. I haven't bought a book in two years because I'm afraid to go down there. I went into a library and almost got jacked.
No but seriously, we profile all the time. My guess is that those guys would fit the description of previously committed crimes, so the cops could stop them for questioning. I used to get pulled over all the time when I was a teenager in an old muscle car. Now that I am older and drive a sedan, I don't get pulled over like I used to. I try to obey the traffic laws now and usually tried to then, but I am fairly sure that I was being profiled |
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Combatcop
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I think I understand where your question comes from. There are two answers. Yes it is racial profiling by definition. No it is not because they are not black or Hispanic. Unfortunately, these same car load of white boys could shoot it out with the police, get their a$$es kicked, shot, tazed and beat down and the Media, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and every other left wing wack job would ignore it. However, if the only difference was the color of their skin, It would be front page news for weeks to come.
Kind of makes you want to puke in your boots, doesn't it? |
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Citicop
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It is certainly profiling.
It would also be a violation of their civil rights and an unlawful detention.
Police Officers need reasonable suspicion of criminal activity for a temporary detention (like a traffic stop). You have given no information in your scenario that would amount to Reasonable Suspicion. |
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robert m
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profiling is good police work, stereotyping is wrong, so what I'm really saying is " if your offended it must pertain to you- if it dose not pertain to you should not feel offended |
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David L
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Yes and I'd be glad they did. I don't mind if I'm stopped if I look like the 98% of the criminals. I'd be happy the police were trying to deter/prevent crime from happening. |
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P W
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Stop asking people here to do your homework for you. You figure out. Posting this crap will teach you nothing. Don't be stupid. |
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Turtle
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That's not racial profiling, unless you are basing your presumptions only on the fact that they are white. But you explained that you are basing your presumptions on them being male, wearing a particular outfit that is known as the wardrobe of a particular group of criminals, driving a European vehicle, and listening to classical music, in addition to being white. That's MO profiling, and perfectly legal.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!!! It's better to stop and briefly question them, even if they simply "happen" to fit the profile and aren't actually part of the criminal gang, because if you don't stop them, and they kill someone, then how much guilt are you going to feel for NOT asking a few questions?
As a police officer, it is your duty to serve and PROTECT (protect - to keep from harm). |
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Michael E
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To stop them, yes. To watch them at a distance, no. To run the plates of the car, no. |
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mike b
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like that's going to happen |
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plezurgui
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Yes, but no one is going to complain about it.
Btw, you do not have probable cause, so unless they have something in plain view, I think you are wasting your time. |
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This_Strong_Black_Woman!!!!!!!
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No necessarily. Since you kind of have something to go on I do think they should be observed a little closer. And even if it was , what the difference? African -American people have been going through the same stuff for decades so if they get a little of their own meds then maybe they will act better. |
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jpc_julia
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no, because there are 98% of that population are the same. if you were following a representative from the other 2% of population that would be racial profiling.
but you are following, not accusing them of anything. so no it is not racial profiling. |
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