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Are people "moochers" if they rely on federal/state assistance but they are completely able-bodied?

I know a couple who rely heavily on charity from others. The wife doesn't work and the husband is a freelancer and they have three kids. To me, they chose for her not to work and they chose for him to freelance (he left his job). They use WIC and State/Federal funded health care for their kids. I often get a moocher attitude towards them as they do not attempt to better themselves in any way. In fact, it appears they don't want to make more money- in fear they might lose their freebies? They come off as really good people, but something about it just gets under my skin. Maybe because I work for everything I have and wouldn't have it any other way. I really want to know if other people feel as I do about this sort of thing??


    




xman77
ABSOLUTELY!


heart o' gold
I've known folks like this as well...I tend to stay away from them as I have no interest in being called upon to participate in supporting them and that is what has always ended up happening in the past when I know folks like this.

I prefer to spend my time and energy with other folks who have positive and productive lives...


Sex&Candy
Yes MOOCHERS. That is not what the money is intended for.


sahel578
They are total moochers and are setting a terrible example of entitlement mentality to their children.

They are not good people. Good people work for a living if they are able.


jskmarden
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Ummm.... yes they are moochers


Chet W
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Moochers is a nice word, Thieves is another. Those programs were put in place to help people that have fallen on difficult time not by their own choice and need help getting back into the flow. Not people for people without disabilities (whether temporary or permanent) that sit at home eating government cheese on our tax dollar. As far as "health care for their kids" if you can't afford good insurance or good insurance is not offered at work (no matter how much you make) then make sure your kids are covered. Sick kids grow to be sick adults and cost more in the long run.

I have no problems helping our fellow Americans out when they need it. The key phrases here are "Fellow Americans" and "when they need it". Its pretty clear these people are simply stealing from the tax payers.


Peacenik
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Yup. moochers. I resent that I have to support them.


zl
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Yes they are moochers, and there are plenty of them in the United States. That is why we need tighter regulations to weed out the moochers and really help the people in need.


Lola
Moochers are moochers no matter how nice they look. Anyone who would rather live off the public coffers is a moocher unless they have no other choice (mentally retarded, brain damaged, or some other disability).

I met a man who had his leg amputated because of gangrene from his diabetes who preferred to sit around and call himself disabled so he could retire on SS disability. Then I met a man who had lost both legs and had been fit with prosthetic legs, who still worked full-time and who didn't consider himself to be damaged in any way.

I guess it must be the mentality of the person involved. Some would rather just sit around and do nothing for a living, while the rest would be ashamed to do that.


Obama is a socialist
Im with you. There ought to be a way to weed out free loaders. I work my butt off for what I have.. I dont think its fair that losers mooch off of and use the system so I have to pay more taxes for their lazy behinds.


kmankman4321
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What they are doing is wrong and possibly illegal. People like that disgust me. They should both be working and carrying their own weight. Because they dont work, you and I and all the taxpayers have to provide for them. Thats not right.


sportzgirl
yes they are. I think it is fine to be on welfare if you are disabled because their is no way for you to earn income. On the other hand, I know people who make minimum wage and they actually need more help financially. I work at a supermarket and I hate it when people come with 400 dollar orders from welfare. Mind you these people are usually driving nice cars and have name brand everything. I hate them so much.


benvanzile
People like that aer a drain on the system. As unpopular as the opinion may be, I feel that people were made to work. If everyone took their approach the world would be in complete disrepair. I can understand people who use the resources provided to them by the system, but those resources are earned. You are NOT entitled to them simply for existing. Those services are a privilege of American citizenship provided to individuals who have fell on hard times through injury or disability, or for those who have lost employment and are ACTIVELY SEEKING a new job.


sandy v
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Yes they are living off of our tax dollars and it pisses me off to no end.I should be on disability,but I'm not,cause I can still move around a little.I have bad knees,need replacements,I am in the landscaping business and work on my feet all day at the garden center.Able bodied people like that should be turned in.You should anonymously,It's your tax dollars supporting them.I get mad as hell when I hear about this.Do the right thing.Turn em in.Make him and even her get up off thier lazy asses and get a real job.


justakid
Yes--definitely moochers. If they are healthy enough to work--then they should work. You are working to pay taxes so the government can pay them to not work--really messed up system huh? I have worked since I was 14 and have never received any type of assistance. My health is getting worse--but I still work. Your feelings are the same as a lot of people's. They may be really good people--but they have their priorities all messed up! They are not setting a very good example for their children either.


rockyfella25
There are so many lazy people out there that take everything for granted.If they can get free food and assistance they will.Those are the ones who have kid after kid after kid..You are so right.


Ahcho A
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Moochers? You must be about as old as I am. I haven't heard that term in many years. Moochers = thieves. Yes in my own beliefs they are. Right now at my age, I could get an early retirement for health reasons but I choose to work anyway. I used to be a Special Investigator who's job was to go out on certain people and catch them in the act of doing labor jobs while on workers compensation. I was good at my job and in all of the time I had that job, I found only one legit person. This is pure theft and it drives up the cost of living and insurance.


Sahara
I'm a liberal democrat. This bugs me too. In no way do I think this is acceptable. I think most democrats have a problem with this. In fact, I would go far to say that most people (even those disabled) should be working. We need to stomp out the fraud. I have a relative who it seems pretended to have a disability (injury from "work") and did so for 18 years, something like that. All of a sudden she can walk again and all is fine. She injured herself while goofing around.
There are a lot of lazy people. I know some people that are lazy and received government assistance. It's actually pretty common in Massachusetts. I'm sure of it is the result of a victim attitude or just plain lack of ambition.
I'm sure some of it relates to opportunity. Poor people don't have many resources. I can understand why they may be depressed or become complacent. Negative attitudes are poison.
I'm a liberal democrat because I believe strongly in improving our educational system for all and providing lots of opportunities for all. I know some people that grew up in these types of families and couldn't do sports or outside activities. Their options were very limited. They are doing ok now but they have had a lot of problems. They don't see the connection. I'm talking about drugs and DUIs. One died, leaving behind a big family. He crashed his motorcycle at 1 am while intoxicated. He was a father with 4 or 5 children. Does that sound responsible? He owned his own business and was doing really well but he was bored as I understand.
He and his brothers had to entertain themselves and grew up with strict parents. They missed out on a lot as children.
I don't get their parents because they have very little to do with their children and grandchildren. Try reasoning with such people? It's impossible.
Again, this is why I support education and opportunities. This is how you get rid of the waste, fraud, and corruption.
It is not just the poor though. Some rich folks milk the system.
A friend of mine lost his job and didn't really look for a job, just collected unemployment. There probably wasn't any jobs out there for him at the time. He was busy doing other stuff like making a movie. The whole system is a mess.
I graduated from college and I've been working since I was 15. I have never been laid off. But I feel like I'm not getting ahead and I work very hard. I'm intelligent. I'm working on a Masters but getting into debt. It's scarey because I don't have a lot of confidence that I'll find a better paying job. It feels like there is a club out there that only lets certain people in.


Amnite
Its good to feel that way. But whose gonna take care of there kids while there being "moochers"?


Baby Girl Rylin 5/3/08
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I think it really depends more on their situation. Maybe if the mother tried to work she wouldn't be able to even make enough money to have the kids in daycare? But I guess if that's the situation, they should not have had kids. I do think it is wrong though. If you cant afford to live the way you want to, you need to cut back in other places rather than having help from the government, especially when there are other people that really do need it.


Cornell is Hot!
obviously they are eligible or they wouldn't be getting it.

do you know how many people out there lie and cheat to get that stuff. what about all the illegal aliens getting free medical / food stamps / wic / education....................


AtiaoftheJulii
Some people do take advantage of the system while others really do need the assistance.

I say judge each family individually. Don't scoop everyone in the same barrell. Here in Michigan we have so many people losing their jobs and homes.... And I would never consider these people moochers if they applied for assistance...


Truth search
If it's as cut and dried as that,then yes.But often you don't know what the truth is about someone unless you're in their shoes.


Aviator - THE Resolution
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Well, corporations that abuse the welfare system take far more money then individuals. They need to clean up the biggest abusers, then start with the smaller ones. But also, if a parent decides to abuse the system it isn't their children's fault. When it comes to giving necessities to children, I would rather error on the side of giving too much.


casapulla2001
And what have you gotten all along, from your parents?

(Some people just aren't as lucky, to be given free room & board & college tuition & a car & the computer you're typing on, to name-call other people, and a family no less.)

Until you walk in someone else's shoes.. as the saying goes. (You don't have enough life experience, nor have PAID enough taxes in your young life to apply any logic to your topic. OTHER than being green/envious that they "don't work" and get something for nothing, in your eyes.) You say you "work for everything you have" -- but, I bet I could shine a light on your life, and show some priviledges & a smugness that you'd rather not portray & identify.

P.S. -- By way of offering YOU a lesson about real adults & consideration... I'm a married 'Republican' father of two that has no financial difficulties in the least (which you might sterotype in some way, of course), but knows how tough it really is to make ends meet (by relating with people). Don't judge, if you don't know the story A-Z there, junior. In 10 years, it may be YOU flat on your rear-end and w/o mom/dad taking you back, etc. floating you.. you'd be on some line waiting for some check, yourself.





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