Do all pro-abortion arguments ignore the fact that the woman has a child inside of her?

Viking

Of course they do. They are convinced that it is not a child. To them it's just a blob of tissue and cells, not a living human being. But if a pregnant woman's "fetus" is killed by an accident or crime, a death certificate is issued for the "child". Go figure.

Lee W.

The question here is WHEN does the fetus become a "child." There are various opinions on this matter and that is where the controversy begins. The extremes being at conception and actual birth.

Your other arguments don't make any sense because you are clearly affecting someone else (with the possible exception of the suicide laws). Note that the point there is whether or not the unborn fetus IS or IS NOT a person yet.

I'm not trying to ake either side, just offer what the issue is from a legal standpoint since that is where you posted this question.

justbeingher

There are no shades of gray with you are there?

Abortion is not illegal. Yeh, we should make all crimes legal just for people like you who think they know what is best for everyone.

Why don't you do something useful with your attitude like working to help make the way easier for pregnant women trying to have their babies. Make a difference instead of a righteous argument that you don't want real answers for.

zoni_tonya

Wow, you sure picked a "hot topic"...

Abortion is not, nor should it ever be, a means of "birth control". HOWEVER, there are times when an abortion is the best option available.

Consider the pregnancy that is a product of an incestuous attack or a rape. Consider the pregnancy that isn't moving along appropriately and the fetus, IF it makes it to term, will not have a life but an existence on tubes and machines.

I am frustrated with the "anti-abortionists" who, while they are against the freedom of a woman to choose, are also unwilling to be part of alternative solutions. I've often spoken with people who are anti-abortion, yet don't support a welfare system that works...one in which a young mother who does carry her baby to term can get assistance with housing, education, etc. I've encountered people who are anti-abortion, yet who wouldn't personally lift a finger to take in an infant handed over to a "safe haven" such as a hospital or police station, and who are opposed to the very existence of such accomodations.

In your final paragraph you compare abortions to other crimes. The fact of the matter is that in this country abortion is not considered a crime, so the comparison is a moot one.

I've never had an abortion, and I don't think I would have one unless my life was endangered by the pregnancy or something like that. However, I have known people who've had to struggle with the idea of it, and people who've had to live with the aftermath of making that decision. In no situation have I met someone personally who took such a choice lightly.

I've never had an abortion. I don't forsee myself ever making that decision. However, I will stand for the rights of others to have that option available should it be necessary within their own lives.

Information Police

You may not like abortion (who really likes it?) but you have to agree that there is not other situation comparable to it - a person with a POTENTIAL life inside of it and dependent on it. So it is dealt with differently than anything else. Concern given to the potential mother and concern given to the potential child. Early term abortions are allowed and late term abortions are regulated.

75% of Americans agree with that.

shirewyn

I do not believe that all people who are in favor of abortion are in denial. Many are focusing on the rights of the woman being paramount to the rights of the child.

If the pro-life groups are going to make an impact they need to approach it from the perspective of the benefit or harm to the woman. They have to show that abortion would be of greater harm to the woman than having the baby. There is information out there, pro-life people need to study it and get the information out there. The pro-choice groups have come at the woman from that perspective, now it is time for pro-life to catch up.

Aviator - THE Resolution

Since it can't survive outside of her body, it really isn't another person. It is more of an extension within her own body.

And the second part doesn't apply to all crimes. The main justification is that you want doctors to be able to legally be involved. If people are going to have abortions, you want them done by doctors. Doctors wouldn't assist other crimes, so it wouldn't make sense to make them legal based on this argument.

Justin

You've already convinced yourself you are right and are simply looking for people to back you up.

Its ok to disagree however - your fingers - you can type what you want.... up until the point that you borderline slander other people by removing the context of the statements to which you refer.

:)

mild_irritant

A fetus is not a "child".

It can become a child, if the woman so chooses.

End of story.

sure_coughalot

Is this really the best forum to jam opinions down the throats of people killing time? write a letter the Oprah and see if she's interested. Why not leave people to make decisions based on their own lives and needs, verses forcefeeding narrow-minded and unknowing attitudes upon the masses.

Proud to be an AMERICAN

That's why it's a tough issue. There are two lives intertwined.

I have posted my thoughts on this in detail elsewhere.

cather2000

It's not PRO abortion, it's PRO CHOICE. People should be able to choose what they want to do. Some may not choose abortion, but they should have the right to if they want or need to. The question as to when life begins is controversial at best. I suppose you are opposed to embryonic stem cell research too? How do you think those little embryos feel frozen for years at a time? Then they get thrown away in the trash because they aren't wanted anymore. Is this different than abortion because the embryo was created outside the womb? I THINK NOT.

They say keep it legal because when it was illegal, not only were the abortions happening in back alleys, women were dying as a result of un-regulated procedures.

This does not apply to other "crimes" as you put it. Just remember what happened with prohibition for example. Didn't work, alcohol is legal and drunk drivers kill thousands each year. They kill themselves with liver disease and cancer. We pay millions of tax dollars to support them, give them treatment that only works 20% of the time for 20% of the time. It's a vicious circle, but alcohol will continue to be legal.

It's stupid to think we should make all crimes legal. And immature. Child molestation and rape are things that are crazy to even suggest being legal.

if you want to argue law,become a lawyer. it has been legally decided and you are showing disrespect for the laws of America.

babypocket2005

"it's my body, I can do what I want with it", and then kill you, using that as an excuse?

Not following your logic on this one. How does my existence affect your health or your emotional well being?

Are there any other areas of my life where you feel more qualified than me to make a decision?

Goldenrae9

1. A pro-abortion stance would mean that one would be in favor of all people having abortions no matter what. Thus your semantics are wrong.

2. I sincerely hope that you are adopting or fostering the unwanted children of people who choose not to terminate. If you are going to try to take responsiblity of a woman's body, take responsibiity of the end result.

nickle

You are not the one that has to live with the decision of having an abortion------which is no concern of yours or anyone elses' She has to LIVE with it for the rest of her life for killing her baby-------NOT YOU.

RantingLover

No, in fact I don't think there are any pro-choice arguments that ignore the fact that there is a human developing and growing inside of a women.

Many of them are based on the legality of demanding that someone be forced to give up bodily integrity for the continuation of life of someone else. Which is, of course, illegal. No one can force you to give up a kidney or a heart or a lung to someone else. Just as no one can force a women to give up nutrients, grow another organ, or face personal risks for a fetus.

And when I physically harm you in a way that might lead to your death, actually, yes, you could kill me legally.

And, no, we shouldn't make all crimes legal because we allow abortion to remain legal. The argument you state is a false argument, and I give you permission to laugh at any pro-choicer who uses it. But, you must realize that abortion has a legal leg to stand on, while robbing a bank doesn't, no matter how many people rob a bank.

Antis Suck

You can't force anyone to do something with their body that they don't want to do. If she doesn't want to have a baby, you shouldn't try to force her to by making abortion illegal.

deleted

Yes; there are two lives. Any argument or plea of rights of an individual is laughable considering that it destroys another individual.

Lou

What it ignores is the fact that doctors are practicing murder when they perform abortions. If the baby does not come out dead, the doctor either kills it on the spot or lays it aside until it dies.

Finton

Saying it is a fetus not a child is a gross lie! It is like saying it is a child not a person or it is a pre-teen not an adult! The word fetus used by abortionists is to make the women feel better about the killing of their unborned child. Abortionist also use numbers like number 2 for the head of the aborted child. He will not say; The head is not out yet! He will say; Number 2 is not out yet. Those who believe that it is a fetus think that it's only a bunch of cells not knowing they are alive! But don't get fooled by femi-sexites! A baby in the womb can feel pain at the eighth week.When a abortion occurs for 20 weeks, 24 week 36 weeks babies, they feel pain and the baby is not given a pain killer before the abortion. The mother is asleep and feels only her pain when she wakes up. But did you know that some babies must suffer many hours befoe being put to death. I heard some people say; well so what, he is going to die anyway and he has no rights! But is that human to say that? All those who are in favor of the torture and death of the unborned child; are they willing to die for it? If murder would be legal, would they be willing to be put to death too? I don't think so! Because, it is a defenless unborned child, they do whatever they want with it and get back to immoral sex lives.

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