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Robert
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TOTALLY/ |
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fategg1973
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you should be able to beat the hell out of them i have just come out of prison after doing 6 months for attacking some little toerag who broke in my house and caught him with my dvd player under his arm |
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whip
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you all laugh at america! well there you go! someone comes busting in my door they will be hosing them of my front porch! good ole' socialism,take your guns,can't protect yourself and the criminals have more rights! |
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ram456456
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UK law is crap if a person came in my house tried to injure me or thearten my life than lethal use of force should be allowed. UK law makes it easier for criminals to commit crimes. UK Labor party lefty-wingers needs to grow a spine and allow its people to become armed because banning guns makes it so only criminals have weapons. Most of Northern Europe and Russia allow you to own firearms for protection. Excessive force should be allowed if ones life in danger or anothers life in danger example, friend, neighbour, wife, child. The right to defends oneself against harm is a human right. UK used to allow firearms I know know how the left-wing wackos allow people to becomes defenseless against thugs. |
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LYN W
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In UK law you can defend yourself, albeit using reasonable force. There is an unrefutable way of dealing with muggers and burglars but unless you know the law well you would not know how to do this and be acquitted. |
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monkeyboy
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Its wrong. An Englishmans home is his castle, he should be able to defend it and his family no matter what |
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C = JD
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In nearly all American states, if one REASONABLY BELIEVES that he is in imminent danger of severe bodily harm OR death, he can use whatever force necessary to defend himself, including lethal force. The victim need not retreat, even if possible to do so.
The UK's gun control laws are great for criminals, and the crime rate there has skyrocketed. Why? Because now only criminals get guns while innocent law abiding people become sitting ducks in their home or business. |
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costa
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I f hanging were to be brought back for stealing a loaf of bread there wouldn't be anything to worry about Mind you - when did you last steal a paperclip from work? |
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You dont surely expect any law to protect the innocent in this country do you. Its the old criminal who needs protecting from us law abiding thugs who want to stop them nicking the silver. We only contribute to the country, dont expect anything in return.
Take todays news, at the moment its fine for immigrants to burn our great flag, and tell you there gonna blow up your kids, but you tell them there not wanted in your country, and its straight in the slammer for you my friend, oh yes,
Next time your in town, just lay on the floor amongst your valubles and let the crims kick the crap out of you before stealing your wealth, and dont forget to thank them, and compensate them for hurting there foot!
Justice for brits,, not in britain my friend |
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foo_fighters_fan_2002
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Barely allows us to defend our selves? The law allows us to use reasonable force if we HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE we are about to be attacked. Basically you dont have to wait for the person to throw a punch or what ever, if you think that you are in danger you can defend yourself, property, or somebody else. The situation will be judged as you had reason to see it. So say that you saw the silhouette of a burglar in your house and in his hand it looks like hes got a gun. Nearest thing to you is an iron, so you hide behind a door, he walks past and you clobber him over the head with the iron. You had reason to believe he was armed and therefore used reasonable force. Reasonable force is proportionate to the siutation. Its been judged that you can use up to 25% more force than the aggressor before it becomes excessive (how the hell they plan to calculate that i dont know) so i guess that means if somebody pulls a knife on you, you can pull a bigger knife on them!
So yes a court COULD rule that you used excessive force but thats just to stop people over reacting. In R v Martin A man was paranoid about being robbed and sat at the top of his stairs with a shot gun. Low and behold he was getting robbed, the robbers saw him with his shot gun and ran. He shot them dead (2 dead 1 injured i think) in the back. This was deemed to be excessive force because they were fleaing. He'd already defended himself and his property in scaring them off, then he shot them which was unnecesary.
I'd be more concerned about the fact that if a burglar injures himself on your property, even in the course of robbing you, he can claim compensation. |
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it_wasnt_me
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u are allowed to defend yourself but not with weapon in hand as they would turn round and say u intended to hurt the suspect lol reasonable force is a simple knock down get the dumb a s s wife to call the polce if she hasnt by this point n wait with the suspect til the police arrive but then again uk police are sooo slow to attend u mite just have to put the kettle on n maybe wait an hour or 2 lmao |
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tucksie
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I've got news for you, the UK law already says you can use proportionate force on somebody trying to enter your home but not if they are leaving.
That the guaranteed truth. |
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Maggiec
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It's wrong of course- how could a pensioner or someone disabled use excessive force -------by hitting them with a walking stick?. |
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eMale
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The only two defining forces that have ever offered to die for you was Jesus Christ and the American soldier.
One died for you soul and the other for your freedom.
Never forget God and Country! |
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smellyfoot â„¢
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In America we have the right to have a gun. And if you unlawfully come onto my property to hurt me or my family, I have the right to shoot you. And if you die, it's your own fault. I live in Georgia, and now you are allowed to use preemptive measures...so if I feel my life is threatened, I don't have to wait for you to attack me.
I always thought it strange that you can't have guns in England. That just keeps those who abide by the law from having a weapon to protect themselves. And granted it will be harder for a criminal to acquire a gun, if they want one bad enough, they will find one. |
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Corky
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More work for the Lawyers ( Of which New McLabour is full to the gunwhales with)
Turn criminal and get all the things decent folk used to have! |
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nemesis
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If the current style of UK government remains in power, it won't be long before we see the "Criminal Rights Act" along with offences such as "obstructing the criminal in the course of their duty". It would appear criminals are allowed to do what they want, and decent law abiding people cannot do anything about it. Its even worse when there are young criminals involved.
The above might sound stupid, but thats what it feels like in the UK. |
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Steve L
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apparently the law has (or will be)changed and if you have good reason to believe your or your families life is in immediate danger any force is acceptable the main plea being self-defence etc. |
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William D
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in a situation to claim self defence the law says `1 you must be in fear of your life 2. you cannot use excessive/more force that being used on you and 3. if there is an opertunity to escape you must at least try to take it if you comply with all three you have a solid claim for self defence that almost certainly will be accepted |
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willliewaggler
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It is right. Proportionality is key. You can defend your family, your house and yourself and not get in trouble as long as you do so using proportionate force. So, if your assailant is violent, you can be violent back, but you cannot go far above the level of vioence he has shown to you.
Excessive force should not be tolerated as you start to get raving loonies acting beyond any reasonable limits of force. |
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the bad seed
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in the us ( California)
i was sent to prison for winning a fist fight with 3 burglars
that attacked me in my own home
2 men bigger than me i'm about 220# and a girl about #150
1 guy went to the hospital and was treated and released the same night for injury's to his face
i got 6 years for use of excessive force
the thinking was that since i won the fight they were no threat
i wish i had killed them |
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LEX
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Why there has to be restrictive issues here, with regard to excessive force on perp's within your domain!
Right you want to get even with someone who has wronged you, invite them to your house, shoot them, then phone the cops to report a break in...ooh it's a big can of worms eh!!! |
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hunter
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I'M IN AMERICA SO ID SAY NO ITS NO BUT IN MY COUNTRY IF YOU KILL SOME ONE AND YOUR RICH YOU GET AWAY WITH IT OR IF YOU PLEADED INSANE! |
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