Help on getting "God" removed from money and plege?

samantha

Well...I have to say that is no easy feat...but a good thing to strive for. I, and may others, may not completely agree with your cause, but you have EVERY right to fight for what you think is important! After all, there was a time when people laughed off women who wanted to have the right to vote...they had some nasty reactions, much like you are getting now.
First and foremost, you need to be as educated on the subject as you possibly can be....if you want to be a leader in this movement then you need to know the history, the debates, and what both sides have to say.
In regards to history...If I remember correctly...I think you will find that the man who wrote the pledge did not invoke God (there were a few other key differences as well). "In God We Trust" did not appear on U.S. currency until the mid-1950's (a very hyper-patriotic time when people were very concerned with "communist threats").
There are lots of individuals, groups, and organizations who agree with what you are trying to do. Your goal should be able to unite them under one umbrella coalition that works together toward this one goal. Perhaps start this at your local level...contact any local universities...and set up a website for the purpose of uniting people for this cause...over time you should be able to expand the organization (include more people and move to the national level).
Find a lawyer. Maybe someone is willing to work pro bono...or can get the advice of law professors and students....Some how, you are going to need to figure out the legal basis for your argument (while you try to sway public opinion in your favor).
Media attention. Try writing editorials and letters to newspapers and magazines (especially once you can also announce and promote your new organization). Work at writing compelling arguments that can sway all people....you want to make sure that you can try to make this change without alienating Christians (there are way to many in this country). Also, try to get high(er) profile people to write on your behalf...like journalists, politicians, and professors (especially those who could be considered an expert in this or similar areas).
I think that is all I have for now...hope that helps! Feel free to contact me :)
ps...I just looked at some more of the wall posts...and I need to point out that there is a difference between God and god...God being the Judeo-Christian supreme god...and "god" being an unspecified god (more open to interpretation)

Curtis

Move to a communist country. You should be thanking god you live in America.

Additional: This country was founded on the principle of god, and changing that will offend many to satisfy the few.
I do not believe in, and also offended by liberalism but day after day I'm forced to pay and participate in liberal values and ideas, such as taxpayer funded abortions, needle exchange programs, global warming, public employee unions, aids awareness day, earth day etc. I hope the thought of god burns your soul, just as the thought of liberalism burns mine.

melissa

About 95% of people in America believe (or at least claim to believe) in God. That means 95% of the people probably won't support you and certainly won't waste any time or effort on such a matter. Sorry, just let it be. What's it hurting you? How often do actually say or even think about the pledge? How often do you actually read your money? This country has much more important matters to deal with.

Jennifer H

Jeez, welcome to the United States of the Offended. I hate to tell you this but it's not gonna happen...

â™¥â™¥The Queen Has Spokenâ™¥â™¥

You are in a minority, You have no reason to remove the wording other than the attention it would bring to you.

The words Under God has already been attacked by an atheist in Federal Court and he lost.

Most Americans like it the way it is.... So unless you just want to be a pariah Let it be.

JimBob

Get a lide - put your energy into something that REALLY matters. Prioritize. Stopping war is much more important than words.

xonitroxo

MOVE!

This country was built on the foundation of God and the words in the bible.

And I can bet money more than once in your life you have or will call on him. Be thankful he will never try and remove you.

LA Dave

You may be messing with mystical forces. If you look at dollar bill iconography, there is a lot of symbolism there that if messed with could bring down the country. Another reason not to meddle, the three or four million dollars to retool the printing plates plus the scare the release of a new bill would put on international markets to dump their dollars; that scare could trigger another world depression...and all because you object. Not going to happen, use your ire to build homes with Brad Pitt in the 9th Ward if you have too much time on your hands.

Melissa M

Why would you want to? You are here in this country and have the right to practice what ever religion you want, isn't that enough? This country was founded in christian morals and values and, honey, I'm sorry, but I believe that it will always be that way no matter how hard you try or anyone else for that matter.

Born Again Atheist

There is actually a case for this going on in the supreme court in San Francisco. The date is sometime this month I forget exactly when. The biggest problem is forming a case that includes evidence as to why these sayings personally hurt you or infringe upon your rights.

ohiofirefighter42

Couldnt care less what it has on it... I just want it to be worth more than the canadian doallar again

Call Me Bwana

Why is it so imperative that it be removed? Having "In God We Trust" on specie isn't going to kill you or make you a believer by osmosis. Is the simple existance of the word "God" on it enough to derange you and make your life unbearable?

The problem you'll have is that most people, regardless of their belief, see no harm being done by it. Nobody forces you to believe in God, nobody forces you to say, "under God" in the Pledge. Most people simply regard your crusade as you having a wild hair up your butt.

Anonymous

As an atheist I always ignore anything like that, I don't like to go against it because they really is no point...

Levi S

Lol, you have fun with that. Personally, all that hasn't changed my way of life, I spend dollars like they're dollars, regardless of that 'In God We Trust'. They all spend the same way. As for the pledge... If you ask a bunch of 1st graders on what they thought it meant, half probably would say something along the lines of "I don't know."

Some day you will realize this train of thought is a mistake. For your sake, I hope that day comes sooner than later. Instead of trying to bring down what this country was founded on, why not focus on living a better life, being a better friend and neighbor, finding some spirituality within yourself?

DankRuse

Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but you have no legal ground to stand on. The separation of church and state serves only to stop the government from proclaiming a state religion that everyone has to adhere to. Since our money does not say, "in Buddha we trust" or "in Jesus we trust" or "in Allah we trust" it cannot be framed in such a way that it would be declaring a state religion. God is a generic term that anyone can interpret any way they choose. Sorry, but you got nothing, and THANK GOD!!!!

Barry C

anyone who tells you that thepledge always had the religious reference isn;t paying attention to facts.

My parents are of the age where they had to say it both ways. It wasn't that long ago that it was added, and it was much longer before that that it wasn't there.

So any arguments on having the pledge have it are spurious.

I would suggest, as the other person did, finding more info on newdow, and contacting him to see how you can support his effort.

Money might be a bit trickier, even though the legal principle ("no establishment clause of the 1st amendment") is the same.

That is because there is a lot of money in circulation, and even if you removed it from new money, it would take decades or more for it to all (or most of it) go away.

P.J.

So your the one!!! I think you need to concentrate on getting an education and leave my money alone! Why don;t you go work at the homeless shelter and concentrate on helping someone instead of doing stupid stuff like this. The money still spends and also. IN GOD WE DO TRUST> ONE NATION UNDER GOD< WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I PLEDGE ALLEGANCE TO OUR FLAG FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! LOL Now everyone can see what a fool you are!!! LOL

Bill

Unfortunately, the government and courts have a hypocritical stance about "In God we trust" where they pretend it's not Christian. This is of course a crock of bovine excrement. Follow Michael Newdow's case in the 9th Circuit, which will (if he prevails) be fast-tracked to the Supreme Court and be overturned.

davidmi711

Keep up the good work. I would start by writing to your congressman and senators. Point out how you feel these phases establish religions that accept a single god.

xialou1

stirring up a hornets nest are we....

it is fun isnt it....lol...

they are so easily upset

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