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How can America continue to justify it's "Right to bear arms" when all these kids keep getting shot
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How can America continue to justify it's "Right to bear arms" when all these kids keep getting shot


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Just before I give Bowser best answer for this for being one of the few voices of reason here I'd like to say that before I asked this question I was angry, having read the answers given here I'm genuinely shocked and now just saddened. I don't think there's any hope for your insane right wing country and you will enevitably destroy the whole world.


    




Bowzer
I think some Americans are too close to this emotionally to be able to think straight.

I'll just reword a few of the arguments above:

'Inanimate pieces of metal do not kill people; people kill people'. Yes. But it's the ready availability of those inanimate pieces of metal that makes it easier for people to kill people - that's the point.

'Cars kill people too. Let's ban them.' What's the logical basis for comparing a generally beneficial and essential means of transport with a firearm? In what part of the USA do you feel so unsafe that you need - that's a strong word - a gun? Need, as in 'actually require'? Exactly.

'It's in our Constitution. We need a means of defence against tyranny.' How many things in the world have changed since the Declaration Of Independence was signed? If and when your political system breaks down, you mean Plan B is to hole up with guns? Really?

'It's always been our right.' How do countries in the world which prohibit firearms not descend into anarchy? I've lived in a country where the penalty for possessing live ammunition (let alone a gun) without a licence was death. Not surprisingly, very few shootings.

I won't address the 'sticks' one : )

Yeah, people are screwed up. Yeah, they'll kill each other with fingernails if there's nothing else to hand.

Why make it easier?


TxSup
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The NRA is a very strong lobby and right wing Christians, perhaps the most important voter bloc in the country, oppose all limits on gun sales and ownership.


kitty fresh & hissin' crew
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Parents need to step up to the plate.


Byron
How can we justify our privilege to drive when all these people die in traffic accidents?


A True Gentleman
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Hasn't it occurred to you that if that guy didn't have a gun he could of used something else? A knife for example. Would you then ban all knives?


steve h
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Let's say gun's were outlawed ok? Then you would have to outlaw knives then sticks, then rocks.....If people want to kill, they will kill no matter what you do to take away the weapon , murder is from the heart, not the tool used to committ it with!!!!!


mudmarine
Ever notice these nuts go where they know there are no armed people ?
They don't walk into Police Stations , do they ?
The states with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime rates .
A gun is just a machine , it has no will of it's own , stop blaming guns for what people do .


joseph m
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Its constitution is its holy writ and the nra is too powerfully politically connected.They mostly dont have a vote on constitutional matters because their senators couldnt be elected dogcatcher if they opposed the gun lobby.


open4one
By understanding what the source of the right is in the first place, and by understanding why it is important. Your question proves that you, like most people both in the NRA and on the Left do not.

First of all, the source of the right is not granted by society or by government. It simply exists, whether you believe in God or not. The Second Amendment doesn't create the right, it merely recognizes it, and that was one of the major objections of the Founding Fathers at the time. Putting it in the Constitution allows the illusion that it is created by that document, and they were of the opinion that it simply exists, independent of any such recognition.

Second, the purpose of the Amendment is as self-evident as the rest of the Constitution if you understand the Declaration of Independence and consider the two simultaneously, as the Declaration of Independence lays out what they were rejecting, and can therefore be a clue as to what they wanted to avoid. They had just thrown off a tyrannical government when they wrote the Constitution, and that would have been impossible without a populace that had ready access to armaments.

The right to keep and bear arms ensures that the populace has the means to resist tyranny (the Will is another matter entirely). It has nothing to do with burglars, serial killers, deer hunting, or child safety locks.


telefantastical
Because it is in fact a right our country was founded on. Guns do not create violence. Violence on tv creates violence. Guns have always been readily available, so its not really correlated with the growing trends in violence. Why dont you hold parents responsible, not inanimate objects?


Fox Hunter
Because Guns are cool !!!!!! and guns dont kill people, people kill people!!!!!

More people are killed by cars than are killed by guns each year.

I think we should ban cars.


sarcasticquotemarks
I just remain thankful it's not "the right to arm bears".


dianafpacker
that's a statement..
hate guns, think they increase the risk of harm not reduce it, but in UK we are in a different culture (at the moment)
Americans do do a lot of blood sports, so perhaps its about those with real reasons, keeping them locked away better.. I personally do not understand the need for every one to bear arms, very cowboy like.. the law needs changing at the top and with ppl like Arnie on the road of politics i don't think that will happen any time soon?
I have to add, that ppl get shot here too, kids as well, and we have gun laws? at some point we need to take responsibility ourselves for our own actions?


barneyboy
What a bunch of answers. Some of these people are so short sighted its scarey. It appears to me that as far as the NRA are concerned the right to bear arms is more important than human life, tragic.


Silkie1
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What impact would it have on the American economy if the ownership of guns was banned? It's just a matter of setting your priorities. Business the American way.


Manatee
Jonathan loves animals-even the bear that killed is pet rabbit.


mike b
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because its our right I have the right to defend myself if somebody is trying to kill me I can kill them that is why I am armed to the teeth but the liberals here are trying to take that right away and that one of the big reason why I hate liberals and I use my guns to hunt if somebody is trying to kill me out in public I can use my Colt 45 1911 I carry on me concealed and I have a permit to carry it if somebody breaks in my house I can use my automatic Sten MK2 sub machine gun its legal to and I hunt with my M1 Garand or my big *** Barrett 50.BMG rifle damn i love this country


Gartenzwerg
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Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me.

Actually very tragic.
Along with the right to own a weapon in America carries the heavy resposability of how to use one safely and keep one locked away if you are going to own one.Peraonally mines locked up and pieced out.
Unfortunately any sicko who wants to cause chaos and death doesnt need a gun,they can carry out their mission I'm sure with other destructive devices, its not just America.


justanotherengine
It was put in place by our forefather's to prevent a dictatorship from taking over, the people will have the right to throw out the gov't that is trying a hostile take over LIKE FROM LIBERALS who think that everyone is NICE ! It is a very important right, don't worry the liberals will be working hard to make sure that your rights are taken away "Drug Testing" infringes on your right of "ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE" and "Being used to testify against yourself", they cleverly get around this by having you sign a piece of paper, waving your own rights ! CLEARLY OVERIDING FEDERAL LAW, on the most powerful document ever written. Why are we not hanging them in the square ?????


savs
Because in America, it's money and freedom that count, not safety and responsibility.

They always say "it's because of the lobbies", which is a lame excuse. The real reason is that they don't care, and don't think about what's happening outside their houses. They only care when it happens to them, or to their families.
This selfish, ignorant behaviour will be the cause of the end of the world one day, and I hope I won't be around to witness it.

People are saying "he could have used a knife" which is also a lame excuse. One guy with a knife cannot kill lots of people, it's technically impossible. He could kill one or two, but would have to be one hard mofo. The killers are usually weak, which is why they use guns.


break
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it makes more sense than the "right to arm bears" lmao!


big man!
Wouldn't it be better if the whole world abolished policies????

Your sensibility is there but still needs improvement.


CLIVE H
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American citizens to not have the right to bear arms. The problem starts with the gun lobby who only quote the first few words of the line on the matter. What the Constitution allows, is for a Citizens Militia to bear arms. That's quite a lot different from saying every citizen can carry a gun. Bush knows this but is a gun lobby supporter - a Texan who shoots from the lip.


Trust Me
I was thinking of the fundamental need to shoot British soldiers in the event that Blair picks up where George III left off, but Bowzer beat me to it.


}pixie{
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i agree - everyone wants their rights, but no one takes on any friggin' responsibilty!


V R G
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America cant justify itself.


Chintot
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you've really poked the gun fans on this one - good for you. some of the puerile stuff they ae coming out with 'cant drive cos of road accidenrs' and factually incorrect 'left liberals promote hate and say you can shoot anyone' is just rubbish. but while they are on here typing rubbish, at least they're not out shooting anyone!


helo pilot cfi
instructions in high school we the student could have participated on the riffle range complete of instructions and supervisions with actual firing time this not only taught safety but more important responsibility i passed this on to my children definitely will continue it passage to their own now many parents want their BOYS in high school to take up home economic and cooking in turn they are gun shy and ignorant of its use and responsibility and grow up wooossssiiiiiissss, they get shot because of the lack of parental supervision and instructions of life parents are too busy thinking of how to get laid without the other spouse finding out or how to get a 3 some going while the kids run rampant i collect all class III firearms when my children were at the tender age of 10 they all participated in my outings in the woods today 2 are Feds other escort for nuclear fuels DOE have a good Day Semper FI 1964 schoold ays


paulisfree04
One has nothing to do with the other! Our right to bear arms is already much infringed upon. Nuts are just that. Maybe if he would of used a copmpound bow or a knife and sliced those innocent kids up, you wouldnt ask this wacked out question. School security might be the answer





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