How can Pro Life people support the death penalty?? When it proves to be a contradiction???

Autogestion

Listen to all this Conservative mafia rhetoric! Pro-Life should mean you do NOT support the death penalty and that you do NOT support war. Leave it to a bunch of rich Christians to decide what the definition of "Life" is. Who the hell gave them the authority to decide who lives and who dies?

TG Special

No doubt you bring up good points. I am in favor of the death penalty, but would be in favor of life in prison, with harsh punishment, but that is no guarantee. I don't want some murderer playing chess and enjoying televison the rest of his life.
This question is very simple though.

A. Babies are innocent, they have commited no crimes, other than being considered a nuisance for a woman.

B. Murderers are adults who knowingly made decisions to harm others, and were found guilty in a court of law, and sentenced to die.

Big Difference here!

I don't care about the more equivalance, I care about common sense. These are really apples and oranges here.

"Electric" Bill Pylon

Not all pro life people support the death penalty, sweetness. Please don't' spread your ignorance and lump everyone into one dimensional groups. And don't believe everything you hear on political ads.

Leader Desslok

One is an innocent child while the other is a convicted criminal. That makes a huge difference. Why do liberals support abortion and are against the death penalty? If they don't have a problem with killing the unborn, why not the guilty?

oh...lola

you lose your right to life when you murder, rape or molest. children are innocent.

Rossonero NorCal SFECU

We differentiate between babies and convicted felons. We don't think they both deserve the same treatment (actually the felons get better treatment since they actually get tried before they're executed).

rustyshackleford001

That's an easy question. The baby didn't rape and murder anyone.

The more difficult question is how pro-abortion-for-convenience people can be against the death penalty.

Mindy

no pro-life is for people who deserve to live, like a baby.
But i am not pro-life to scum to have already taken a life.

ladyscott

Is the innocent life of an unborn baby who's committed no wrong the same as the life of someone who commits heinous murders or rapes children? No! If life is life, then it would be a crime to squash the mosquito that just bit you, or to pick a flower or to eat a fish or chicken or to flush away embrios that have just been experiemented on.

Jesus once said not to turn away the children around him because "thus is the kingdom of Heaven." And no wonder Heaven is full of children....we murder millions of them every year.

elephanthrower

What kind of rats nest do you have going on up there in that area between your ears. First of all, show me statistics on your assertion that people who are pro life are pro death penalty. I am pro life because of my religous beliefs and my upbringing. I do not believe abortion is an appropriate solution IN MOST CASES. I also do not think the state should perform sanctioned murder IN MOST CASES.

Thaylen M

You are mixed up. People who get the dealth penalty have taken a life! Unborn babies are not murderers, they are being murdered. How can you possibly compare the two. I value human life but once someone crosses that line and takes a life that person deserves to fry. To date I don't know of any fetuses that have comitted murder to earn the death penalty.

n0witrytobeamused

Babies pose no danger to society; actually they are required for society! No baby ever hurt anyone, most people were very happy to create him or her! But then they realize responsibility is on the horizon, so they CUT AND RUN. While I agree with a small percentage of abortions, most of them are a result of making poor choices and shirking responsibilities. Most abortions are done to women aged 20 -25, single, no boyfriend in sight. What a way to start your adult life.

I narrowly believe in the death penalty; while I agree with it in concept, I have seen enough abuse and incompetance to want more controls on it. But if you read about many of the perps, you will see that these people pose a constant threat to everyone around them. Some get loose, like Michael Dukakis found out when Willy Horton went on furlough from prison, raped a woman and killed her husband as she watched. If you spent time with Jeffry Dahlmer, you might change your mind. They are wild, kill for no reason and must be removed form circulation. Death accomplishes that without risk, and these people are done on earth anyway.

If you refuse to put a feral murderer to death, you MUST share responsibility for any future atrocities he commits. Jesus offers forgiveness BECAUSE he paid the price of humiliation and death; too many liberals want to give out forgiveness like welfare money and do not understand that there is a price to offering forgiveness. Few want to pay the price, they just want that little rush they get when they give away freebies to the needy.

To solve your dilemma, abortion and the death penalty are unrelated subjects. One is directly related to our youths' inability to keep their clothes on and wait for the right person, the other has to do with eradicating a clear and present danger to our...children.
In WWII, we sent thousands of troops to shoot Nazis. Were they murderers? Of course not. If you resist a rapist and he falls down a flight of stairs and DIES, are you a murderer? Of course not, you have the right to self-defense. If you put tools into a woman's womb and kill a fetus, what evil has been defeated? What cause has been forwarded? Will there be a ticker-tape parade? Any heroes? Are we more free as a result of abortions? Some are necessary, I understand, but not all killing is murder nor is it all justified.
You have a lot to think about; both subjects are difficult to cover in a paragraph.

kehkohjones

Death equals death. The fact that one is a supposed criminal (may have been an innocent person wrongly convicted) is just an excuse to justify a taking of life... it is a legal murder just as abortions are. Pro-life advocates claim that the fertilized egg is a human life form... aren't those on death row also human life forms?

What about the fact that some wrongly convicted have been proven innocent through modern technolgy (DNA profiling)? HOW certain can we be that not one innocent person has been executioned?

Since this country was founded, how many victims have been brought back to life with the executions of the condemned?

Marty K

There is no contradiction, or similarity between the innocent and the guilty. Please, get a clue and seek therapy for your liberal mental condition.

http://mentalhealth.samhsa.gov/hotlines/default.asp

ÑªEvil Inverted Glagolitic SpockÑª

Au contraire: the life of the murderer and the life of a victim are NOT of equal value. The murderer has forfeited his right to life by his action. The unborn child is innocent, pure and simple.

Tasha

Because we don't want to see unborn children killed and we don't mind seeing grown @$$ people such as pedophiles(who kill kids after raping them) "get killed" for their heinous, wicked, horrific crime(choose which adjective u want to use for them).

Beth

A convicted criminal gives up his rights when he decides to take the law in his own hands!! He knew before he committed the crime what the consequences would be and chose to do it anyway. An innocent little baby is at the mercy of someone else's decisions. Abortion is punishing someone else for your mistakes, the death penalty is accepting the responsibility/consequences for your own mistake....big difference!!!

turboweegie

Not a contradiction at all. In one case an innocent human life is being eliminated because it is INCONVENIENT. In the other case the taking of life is a harsh punishment for such heinous crimes, that the only reasonable punishment is for them to forfeit their own lives.

I've never heard about it being up to God who lives and dies. But if you're talking about the "judge not lest ye be judged", that is in regards to sin and one's soul, not one's Earthly punishment for Earthly crimes. Jesus did not save the lives of the 2 thieves who were also on crucifixes on Calvary - he saved their soul.

That's why there is no Biblical support for abolishing the death penalty - it is not condemned in the Bible, and without it, Christ could not have saved us.

Executing criminals is not "murder". Murder has a specific meaning - the unlawful and unauthorized taking of another's life with malice aforethought. Execution IS lawful and authorized, and is not done in malice.

Many of us hold innocent life in such high regard, that someone who murders another must forfeit their most dear possession - their own life. This is punishment for Earthly crimes.

You will never convince me that being against abortion but for capital punishment is a contradiction.

someguy

a baby didn't ask to come into the world but if someone dose something horrible (ie: people that murder children innocent people look at the guy who killed those little girls school in PA if he was caught alive what should be his punishment) you don't get the death pealty for going over the speed limit..... as far as abortion if it threatens the mothers life then it's up to her...or maybe if she's rape it's up to her the only two reasons for abortion......

Chuck'n Da Deuce

they are hypocritics

Proud to be an AMERICAN

I think we ALL draw lines, rightly or wrongly, allowing "killing" when another value is deemed more important. Certainly most people would approve abortion when a mother's life is in danger, or the killing of enemy soldiers in wartime (depending on the conflict), or (for some) the death penalty.

We all use the same analysis although the result is not the same - anti-abortion folks feel there is a difference between putting a dangerous criminal to death and aborting an innocent unborn life. Pro-abortion rights groups see the interest in preserving an unborn life to be outweighted by other factors, including the woman's autonomy.

Again, we all weigh the factors. we just do it differently.

Pro-life and pro-choice are both inaccurate labels.

Justsyd

Just another belief that doesn't make sense. Save a person and then condemn them. Supporting the death penalty is murder.

This Is Not Honor

There is always an except to everything. And there is always a reason/excuse for it all.

Life is life, people. Get a clue. Convicted felon or not, it is still a life. Or maybe you have 2 different definitions of life and you use whichever one suits your needs/agendas as you need it?

M S

A fine question - very thoughtful

MaryBeth

Pro life is pro ALL life...so yes,it is a contradiction.
http://www.priestsforlife.org

Jim W

Yes,the contradiction referes to (1) their need to controls womens bodies,and (2) being the law itself to control other peoples bodies.A reactionaryhold over from the Dark Ages.

Melanie

they're idiots.

sweendog67

In most cases it is the religious right involved in both. According to the bible it is an eye for an eye mentality.... Surley if your mother, sister, brother, etc..were to be murdered, tortured or raped, you would want to see the one responsiable pay the ultimate price.. In most cases you or the surviving victims family members should be the ones to do the killing.. The problem with the death penelty is that the justice system is involved. Here is where the rich people seem to escape justice including the death penalty.. Sad, isn't it??

~no name~

yea what she said

rand a

they are not worried about the welfare of the aborted child, or the would be parent, or the person getting the death penalty, the whole thing is about power and control, they have life and death power over the convict, and control over another humans body and future. They are just micromegalomaniacs

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