How can republican's hide behind the constitution to keep their gun rights but......?

texasjewboy12

Wally, you're got to remember that "separation of church and state" was intended to prohibit the establishment of a state-sponsored church, like the Church of England. It was never intended to banish all religious references from public discourse. The Consitution guarantees freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. In a country that allows free speech, we're all going to hear some things we don't like concerning religion, politics, and just about everything else. Personally, I have no problem letting others observe their traditions, as long as I'm free to observe mine.

Bonkers!

Uh duh. The Constituion says congress shall make no laws regarding religion. I have not heard any republican or conservative try to write a law requiring prayer in school or anything, but I've heard law after law from the left trying to prevent the same. Republicans have merely been trying to undo the laws, as the constitution says.

Q Continuum

The Constitution does not say 'separation of church and state', what it says is: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;".

Notice the "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Separation of church and state simply means congress cannot set a national religion. It does NOT mean that they have to stop every mention of religion, stop the posting of the 10 commandments, stop prayer in school, etc. That is, in fact, against the Constitution.

You DO NOT have a right to not be offended. Get over it.

oldmarine08

show me where it says separation!

George B

Since Republicans are not forcing you to attend church, or forcing you to accept the morality, there is no conflict the separation of church and state concept.

The proof is in the example of a conservative who has no religious beliefs but advocates the same thing solely on a morality basis.

Bryan

Exactly how are Republicans ignoring the Constitution is relation to church and state? The last time I checked we do not live in a theocracy and no is being forced to worship a particular religion. Just for the record the phrase separation of church and state does not appear anywhere in the Constitution and is in fact a construct of one man in a letter. His name was Thomas Jefferson.

Artemis Gwen

Apparently you don't know many Republicans. I support the Second Amendment and am in complete agreement with the concept of the separation of church and state. Further, I would oppose anyone (Republican, Democrat, Independant, whoever) who tried to impose a religion on this country . . . as would EVERY other Republican I know.

Final Frontier

The constitution says nothing about the separation of church and state. (You are thinking of Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association.)

sgoldperson

Well when you read the Constitution we can have another talk. There IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Try reading the First Amendment, and then read the second Amendment to all the people hiding behind that for their gun rights. Since I'm not shouting about the Second Amendment on here I feel I have every right to tell you to learn what the First Amendment REALLY says.

Call Me Bwana

Please cite the article or clause in the Constitution where I can find the "separation of church and state".

The fact is, that aside from the 1st amendment, where Congress shall not establish a religion or prevent the free exercise of religion, there is nothing.

Since no Republican is advocating that the state establish a religion (such as the Church of England), and since no Republican is advocating any restrictions on the free practice of religion, then tell me, what exactly are Republicans ignoring in the Constitution?

You brought it up. You'd better be able to produce a concrete example of how the Republicans are violating the 1st Amendment regarding religion.

axel

The second amendment gives the right to the people to have firearms, there is no mention of separation of church and state anywhere in the constitution

the constitution says that the government can't force a religion on anyone and that the government is not associated with the church

before the US was founded it was common that the church was the exact same thing as the government

I can't think of one issue where the church is in control of the government, so your question doesn't make any sense

learn to read and then pick up a book, if you can do this you will learn that nowhere does the term separation of church and state appear anywhere, knowledge is power, ignorance of the citizen is BO's power.

It is a great gift to rulers that the average man doesn't think for themselves- Adolf Hitler, the original obama

csufresnogirl

I agree with Bryan, how is republicans ignoring the constitution related to the topic of separation of church and state?

How are republicans ignoring the separation of church and state? Where are you getting that information? The amended Constitution states that the government can not dictate or force religion on the American people. Liberals then fought that since government can't dictate the church/religion, then religion should stay out of the government. Republicans to stress their right to bare arms, and as a republican, I will defend that also. I am a 26 year old female and I believe that I have the right to protect myself! If the government takes away our right to bare arms, then our nation might as well turn into Germany when it was under Hitler's rule. The first thing he did was take weapons away from the people, leaving them defenseless. I think we all know what happened after that... mass murder!
You really need to pay more attention and get a better look at the truth before you try to point the finger.

Bear

Agree I use the 2nd Amendment to keep my guns and use the 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech, right to assemble to pray to my God and Goddess. I also agree that they have the same right to do the same.

Do I agree with "In god we trust" on our money? NO "God" being taught in schools? NO. or "One Nation under god"? NO

I also agree that the church should pay taxes on income, and property unless they can prove "God". Religion is fantasy we believe in, A child believes in the Disney Land fantasy yet they are taxed.

daaaave

To all of the posters who ask where the constitution says separation of church and state, where does the constitution say you have your Miranda rights, it does not contain these exact words. That being said the doctrine of separation of church and state is derived from the establishment clause of the constitution (ie government may not establish religion) Our Supreme Court has interpreted this to mean that church must be separate from functions of the government. (Similarly, miranda is derived from the 5th amendment right against self incrimination).

For all these people purport to know I would wager a large sum that they have not even read any of the Supreme Court's opinions on the matter.

Here is my argument as to why the so called right to bear arms was never intended to be construed as it has been by the court. It is based on the framers intent and the actual language of the amendment purporting to bestow this right.

The constitution of the US would probably never have passed a vote of the states without this provision. The states at the time had just gotten rid of one dictator (the UK) and did not want it to just be replaced with another (the US federal government). Therefore the provisions intent (and the language if you look closely) seem to indicate that the intention was to allow the members of the states to bear arms in defense of their state against an overly intrusive federal government. Be it as it may, what we have today is broad interpretations of our constitution.

Kirk S

Well thought out question... NOT!

momofaid

Haha you got served. This just proves that lefties just need a little information and then they become righties.

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