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passin thru
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I'm a smoker, but I've always respected the rights of people who don't smoke. In addition to the health risks, I can understand how someone just plain wouldn't want to smell smoke while eating or enjoying some other event. So even before smoking bans swept the nation, I never smoked in public places.
However, I disagree with smoking bans to the extent that private business owners should have the right to allow smoking in their facilities; for example, in bars. All that would be needed would be a sign stating that smoking is allowed. Then one could either choose to enter, or not. Seems reasonable to me. |
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kc_warpaint
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Because I pay taxes and spend money, just like non-smokers. I have the right to enjoy a meal out or go to a bar, just like non-smokers. Non-smokers have the right to whine, why don't I have the right to smoke? |
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Dean
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i think they should split the country in half. make all the smokers live in one part and non-smokers in other. that way, no need for a smoking ban and keeps everyone happy. |
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Rich B
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Here's the problem. The anti-smoking Nazi's have managed somehow in many places to even have it passed that lighting up in one's own vehicle should be against the law. Why then, using the same warped logic would anyone object to laws regarding seatbelts? Pardon me, but what I do in my own vehicle is MY business. And what I do in my own back yard is also my business. Some states in America have even gotten so anal as to pass laws stating it is illegal to light up outdoors ANYWHERE. Well, try to enforce it on my property. See what the result is.
This silliness from the same bunch that whines about our HUGE loss of freedom.
Me personally...I would never be so presumptuous as to expose others but enough with the unenforcable laws already. |
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A True Gentleman
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I like to walk along city streets and not be choked by the carcinogenic fumes from diesel buses. Do I get a choice? Of course not! Those f*cks on the bus couldn't give a sh*t about me. I should attach a hose on the exhaust pipe and feed it though a passenger window, see how those c*nts like it! |
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Simo
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The option to smoke is a right, in this country everybody has the right to do what they choose to do. alcohol is a drug which in excess consumption kills, maims, tears apart families etc. Why, if we can ban the use of a certain drug why not another. Sure, passive smoking is not right and nor is the disposal of butts in the street. Why cant smokers have designated establishments where they can enjoy a cigarette? Because non smokers will go there and complain. If you dont like 2nd hand smoke, stop hanging around with your family, friends and colleagues who smoke, go to a different bar, start hanging out in libraries rather than bars. Smokers have less rights than non smokers yet who does all the whining?? |
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nomadder
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I'm not sure what ban you are talking about, but if it has to do with small business owners. I don't think you have to go into a cafe or bowling alley that allows smokers, but you think you have the right to tell owners what they can or can't allow? I don't think it is about smoking its about business owners rights.
Nobody is forced to go into a resturant that allows smoking. I don't get it. |
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Avalon
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i smoke and i am not complaining |
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Elliot Ness
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The harm of passive smoke has been refuted on several levels and is not nearly as accepted as it was 20 years ago. Not only that but it is more an infringement on business owners than it is on smokers. Why can't a pub owner decide if he wants a smoke free pub? Why does big brother have to decide. It is just another small freedom being taken away, personally I don't really care if it is banned or not, but it is an infringement on freedom. Nicotine has been proven to be more addictive than cocaine and heroin, so why is it legal at all? Because it is a tax windfall. If there is lost tax revenue from this ban, who do you think is going to pay for it. Everyone, including the non-smokers. Prehaps you think that payng over 50% of your wages in income tax, fuel tax, luxury tax, road tax, and other hidden taxes is not enough, but I do. |
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ROBIN HOOD
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Happy new year
im a smoker and not complaining because i live in Germany
and here is no ban
Ps im an ex Notts Lad |
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Patienttraffic
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If anti-smoking establishments were in such high demand we wouldn't need a law...economics would do it for us. |
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Phlodgeybodge
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I am a smoker, but I agree wholeheartedly with you. I have always tried not to inflict my habit on non-smokers, and have felt increasingly self-conscious of the fact that sometimes I do - eg, when I go to a pub.
I welcome the ban - but I wish the government had had the balls to make smoking as illegal as heroin or crack cocaine. Sadly they make too much money from us. |
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ronky donk
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I repeat, and completely agree with the previously submitted comments below :-
Why cant smokers have designated establishments where they can enjoy a cigarette? Because non smokers will go there and complain. If you dont like 2nd hand smoke, stop hanging around with your family, friends and colleagues who smoke, go to a different bar, start hanging out in libraries rather than bars. Smokers have less rights than non smokers yet who does all the whining??
We, in Britain, are living in what can only be called a Police-State.
Today it's a never-ending crusade against smokers (20-25% of the population). This will be followed by the anti-drinking campaigners, more pressure by the health-police on our eating habits, further taxes on car drivers, more guilt piled on us by the 'Save the Planet' looneys, etc, etc, etc. |
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silly gorbie
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the only thing I can't understand is ..why wait until June ...why not today? |
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Zabe
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We had a local smoking ban of all local places and family dining. Restaurants could allow smoking after 9pm because after 9 families were home and it's mainly social hours. We had a big uproar about it, but you know everybody is okay with it now. Honestly, I think how we did it was the best. During hours when families (with children) are out no smoking. You usually only spend an hour or two eating anyways. Then after 9pm when it's not so much eating, but social smoking sections are is allowed. Also smoking is allowed in place that make like over 3/4 of their profit from alcohol (bars). I think it does meet people half way. |
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richard_beckham2001
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I agree with you, i cannot wait for the smoking ban to come into force this year.
HAPPY NEW YEAR |
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Wal
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I am smoker who has managed to stop, but I still think that this witch hunt against the smokers is unfair, the non smokers always had their place in public places and restaurants so the smokers should have the some privilege. What a lot of you do not seem to understand is that quiting is extremely difficult, if it was cocaine you would get help, and nicotine is harder to give up. |
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Jimmy H
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I agree partly in what you said but what niggles me is if smoking is such a social disease instead of banning smoking in public just ban smoking. Of course he wont cause of all the lovely tax bux he gets. I too am a smoker and completely respect the new law and other peoples right to fresh air. |
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witheringtonkeith
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there is a smoking ban over here in spain
ie resterants bars pulbic transport and so on
but there is an exseption is your bar or restrant is under 500 squ meaters your allowd to have smoking?
stupid en it really i used to smoke gave up about 6 months ago
now i am one of those who is dead agenced it
smokers dont have a right to complain if they want to smoke go out side and smoke. |
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vinylsteve
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If you are a 16 or 17 year old smoker you have a right to complain, you're doing something which is legal and in October it will be illegal, i would be really p*ssed off. |
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It's MEEE!
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They don't have an argument...at least not one that isn't whiny and stupid. They can kill themselves if they want, but I should be able to sit in a restraunt without inhaling their secondhand rat poison. It's not like they're having their right to smoke completely stripped of them. I'm sure they can sit down to have a meal without needing to get a fix. |
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John D
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The smoking ban is simply a waste of time. Segmenting smoking is not the right aproach.
The law should say it is illegal to smoke in the presence of a non-smoker as the smoker is subjecting them to passive smoke. Which is equal to intensionally poisoning the non-smokers.
I was at the bus stop the other day and the amount of smoke I was inhaling for two smokers was so much I had to move away from the place. Why should it be legal for these bloks inconvience me? |
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S
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There is nothing more disgusting than inhaling other peoples smoke. Especially when out for a meal. If i wanted to inhale smoke then i would start smoking. Do these people that smoke realise how awful they smell. Fine, if they want to smoke do it on their own property, its up to them what they do on their own grounds. But certainly not force me to inhale their disgusting second hand smoke. |
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Max
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Who cares.They can complain to no avail, or comply, or quit. I would be in that situation, but I quit. |
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