Is it fraud? any advise pls?

Blunt Honesty

Sounds like fraud to me. You might want to get an attorney.

mallu

yes its fraud. Keep all the items. Dont give this scammers any $ or info. Report them to the police.

nenealne

NO, you write a letter to the guy telling him your chargeing him storage cost(i hope you still got them)if not you are guilty. WHOOPS!

saved_by_grace

It sounds like either the company is a scam or someone has used your identity to order items and planned on getting them out of your mailbox and for some reason was unable to. I would make a report with your local police department and inform this company in writing that you did not order the items nor will you be responsible for paying for them. I would also inform them that if they want these items back then they can send a postage paid box to you and you will be happy to return the items to them.

jefro

If you recieve something in the mail you did not order it's yours to keep. Tell the guy if he wants it bad enough and you don't want, come and get it but call ahead because I'm on the go alot and may not be home, nice talking to you but don't call anymore. See you in court.

psychoticgenius

If you didn't order them it is not fraud, but they could do you for theft, get legal advice.

Peter G

First off, if you had given them the incorrect credit card number, how were they able to charge your bank account?
second, unsolicited goods are your property, depending on what country you live in, but here in the good old USA, if you didn't order it, its yours.
Now mind you, if it was sent to you by mistake, from say your neighbor's address, that would be different...
See the below referneced previous question

breezinabout

Stick to your guns... tell him he can come and collect the goods if he so wishes. If you had supplied an incorrect Credit Card number they would never have sent the stuff in the first place. I think they are just trying it on.

As for signing for it (presumably from the Postman or delivery man) anyone can do that... how will you know what it is (and that you don't want it) unless you sign for it and open it.

mrs_squier81906

In the United States, if a company sends you merchandise without your prior authorization they cannot expect payment for it. It doesn't matter if you signed for it or not. I'm not sure how it is in the UK, but you didn't enter into any contract with this company. Also, companies NEVER send high dollar items without a valid credit card number. In the US they always confirm the in information with the credit card company.

VidaUK

I am confused - did the items come delivered in your name to your address??

Usually with fraud you will receive items/documents to your address but in a strangers name.

If the items came to your address and were not in your name, and yet you kept them I think you will find that what you have done by keeping them is tantamount to theft as you have taken receipt of someone elses goods with no expectation to pay for them. If I was you I would pack them all up and send them back if you want a clear conscience.

Get a credit rating check from Experion to see if you are a victim of fraud. Report it to the Police and give all the paper work in.

Ollie

You should not have accepted or signed for the parcels.Sorry you will have to send them back or pay for the items.

kind000

send it back it doesn't belong to you -ask them to send you the parcel slip via email... you shouldn't have opened it if it wasn't yours, but sounds to me like you ordered it and closed your account and now you want to keep the stuff you got, thats stealing!

livinia

why did u sign for it in the first place?
this is fraud through and through, i dont know how u r going to get these people of ur back!

wayforwardhow

If you are in the UK then we have what is called the Unsolicited Goods Act. If goods arrive at your address & you have not ordered them then contact the supplier & inform him that the goods can be collected from your address, give as much opportunity as is practicable for you, but put a time scale on it, say 30 days. If the goods have not been collected within the time scale then they are yours.
This was the law when I was studying law as part of a course I was doing about 30 years ago.

Good Luck

snvffy

What you need to do is tell the individual you didn't order the stuff, don't want it, and ain't gonna pay for it. He should send you RMAs right away so you can return it at his expense.

Don't swallow the line about signing for it - who examines packages when the guy is standing at your door tapping his feet? You sign and examine later.

DON'T DISCUSS WITH HIM. Tell him what to do !!

PS. They don't send merchandise without a signed order or a credit card, unless it is a scam. So I hope you have been 100% truthful in asking this question.

chocolahoma

Some of these answers are very likely from Americans. The laws here may vary from state to state and most likely do not correlate to British law.

Its also not clear from your explanation if you signed up for something on website and gave a credit card number, not expecting merchandise, or if this stuff just comes to you out-of-the-blue...

In the USA, in most cases, merchandise that is shipped to you without your order or request can be legally kept by the receiver as a "gift". The case may be murky if you supplied them with a credit card number, as they'll argue that the number constituted an "order" for the merchandise.

The company's strong-arm tactics suggest to me that they are just trying to bully you. I'd inform your local Better Business Bureau or the equivalent of our DA or state Attorney General to see if there are charges you can file.

Alfred E. Newman

why did you sign for it? that was your only mistake,if you signed you have to send the stuff back and say you didnt order it.

Yoruba

All these things that came in the mail, did it have your name on it? If so then you might have entered a competition of did some sort of survey on the internet. And that's probably how they got your address etc...On the other hand it does sound like a fraud. Perhap you can call up Consumer watchdog and they can sort out an advice.

Cheers

country_girl

possession is 90% of the law..
If you receive something you didn't order,your entitled to keep it if you wish...I have had this happen before to me,and when the company or who ever calls I usually tell them I don't know anything about it and then they leave me alone

The Alchemist

No this isn't fraud, it's theft. Signing for the goods to be delivered means you are accepting tham as your property.
In order not to be taken to court, you will need to return the goods undamaged asap.

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