Is setting fire to a waste bin at the back of the library classed as actual arson ?

colin050659

Der yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wizzywig

arson
noun {U}
the crime of intentionally starting a fire in order to damage or destroy something

so....yes

bopsy

Why would anyone wanna do that? Whats the point?

Dr. Souldogs

setting any illegal fire is arson, regardless of harm or lack thereof

Ronan M

yes it is. and you are liable for the "natural and probable" consequences of your act, as you were fully aware of what you were doing. ie. if the fire spreads and burns down the library which contained rare and irreplaceable manuscripts you are liable for all the damage caused.

GAVIN E

Well it may not be classed as arson, but is sure going to be classed as crminal damage. And it is not a victim less crime as someone has to put right the wrong you did.

mailbox_5

Its classed as STUPID,

Spence

Still arson because you are setting fire to something that does not belong to you - the bin belongs to someone (e.g. the council) and thus is still a crime against someone elses property and as such is not victimless.

Oxford Dictionary definition of Arson: "crime of deliberately setting property on fire"

buggerlugs

of course its arson

judith r

yes your destroying property.

ohiofirefighter42

yes its arson...and if the building is occupied its aggravated arson

Zippy

Yes it's arson.

One definition of arson is "To unlawfully and intentionally damage, or attempt to damage, any real or personal property by fire or incendiary device"

I've never heard of a victimless crime...

If the waste bin is damaged as a result of this act, then it is not a victimless crime. If the waste bin belongs to the library, then they are the victims.

If you set fire to your own bin, then it's your property, and probably not a crime, unless the fire spreads or causes nuisance.

ANDREA

Technically it is still ARSON!

Spot

time for bed ?

kimberley j

Yes it is!

snowmateus1

Yes its arson about in public.

mummy me

yes it is and you can be done for it, its destruction of public property

groovymaude

It is arson, it is not a victimless crime, anybody who pays council tax is a victim. Arson can carry a life sentence - doesn't take a lot for fires to get out of control, what if there is something highly flammable or explosive already in the bin?
It isn't the actual act of starting a fire that is the problem it is the consequences.

purplepadma

Yes. It's delibarate fire-setting, which is the definition of arson.

There are plenty of so-called "victimless crimes" .... driving while disqualified is a good example. If there isn't an accident, you can't put your finger at a specific person affected, but it's still a crime and people still go to prison for it.

In actual fact there's always a victim, even if the impact is slight. The bin will have to be replaced. The council will have to pay to do it. It all adds to the Council Tax bills we alll moan about.

dave b

.....you must be kidding.

vdv_desantnik

yes its still arson. suppose the fire had spread?

penny4themnow

It's not a 'victimless crime'...someone somewhere owns that bin! Damaging property whatever it is by fire is arson...so it is ACTUALLY ARSON!

M'SMA

Duh!! YES!! And how do you KNOW it's victimless?

Tom

That depends on how badly the prosecutor wants the firebug off the street.

It should be at least malicious mischief and setting any fire may have foreseeable and major consequences.

mad_1240

yes that is a crime and you can be put in jail.

stormydays

Arson and criminal damage.

pOrkrOd

Yes, arson is setting fire to something outside of local guidelines.

tianjian_8

In Washington, if only the waste can burns it would be charged as malicious mischief. If it sets fire to other things then the charges mount up all the way to felony arson with felony murder.

Steve W

There's a lot of arson about goin' on here.

rhsaunders

Yes. Starting any unfriendly fire is arson. But if the waste bin has trash, which the owner wishes to dispose of by burning, and such burning is not barred by other regulations, the owner may burn the trash.

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