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Buk (Fey)
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i dont smoke and i am on your side! no one should tell you you should not smoke. well, your doctor might advise against it. i absolutely defend your right to smoke! where will it end? fat people cannot eat? skiers cannot ski because they may get injured? its all crap!
im with you on this one! |
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smellyfoot â„¢
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Oh please. I don't think the government should be able to arbitrarily ban things from adults. If I feel like pickling my liver and my brain - and acting like a fool in the interim - that's my own damn business, . I'm tired of the government trying so desperately to protect us from ourselves. |
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mnwomen
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Remember Prohibition? Been done and didnt work. Bootleggers, rumrunner, speakeasys and stills. |
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powder
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Oh shut up and have a pint |
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here to help
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i'll drink to that. not really, let's just fight the smoking bans.
david s, you're very wrong about the second hand damage alcohol can cause |
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Willy
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Then what would you ban next, you don't like something so nobody should be able to to it?
With that kind of thinking soon everything that people do to relax or for enjoyment would be illegal
Have a drink and chill out! |
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rosbif
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Alcohol related accidents and incidents cause far more deaths and injuries than smoking does. |
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conquer
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Prohibition won't solve anything. Britney Spears life is a disaster so is Paris Hilton. USA should banned alcohol from the country, but the problem with that is that our gov. is so corrupt that many people in power won't banned it because they do it. |
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Polo
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If you banned drinking, the politicians would have nothing else to do all day... |
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Louise
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Lets not! I smoke and drink so I'd never have a night out again. |
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Happy Murcia
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Very good point
Two legal drugs in the UK alcohol and nicotine. |
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Albinoballs
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I think the government had to decide weather or not to legalise cannabis. And this smoking ban was a knock on effect of some other aborted decision. |
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john r
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i think any ban is crapola. i say we legalize everything, its my right as the king of my world. |
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Perseus
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I'd try the softly softly approach. No spirits for those under 21. That is before the raids on home beer farms and Prohibition.
I bet the criminals can't wait for this opportunity.
Myself, I think all day opening has resulted in more drinking problems. This may settle down in the next generation. |
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Nate
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Yeah we tried this already it was called "Prohibition". Anyways thank god for a smoking ban! |
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"W"
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Everyone in the Bush family is a substance abuser and you think they'll ban it?
Not bloody likely...
Meet Crack-ella Bush
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/nbushjail1.html |
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KATYA
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I absolutely agree with you. Preferably however, I wouldn't
wish to ban any substance because I would hope that
people can be mature enough to know how to enjoy cigarettes, alcohol, ... in moderation and without it ever becoming a problem for themselves or those around them.
That said; why should cigarette and marijauna smoking be banned when alcohol isn't? How hypocritical can you be!
In France, heart disease is the biggest cause of fatality.
One of the heighest rates in Europe. This is mostly due to alcohol. Unfortunately, some people here don't realise that wine is alcohol (how naive can you be !). It's a tradition it isn't alcohol. I drink very little and I don't smoke. I'm repelled by the sight of very drunken people doing extreme harm to themselves as well as potentially to those around them. When I was a teenager a class mate was killed by a drunk female driver. She must have served 4 days in prison as she was a mother herself. She must still be living with the guilt though. I'll never forget it.
Secondly, why is alcohol advertising still allowed and not cigarette advertising ? (at least in France anyhow, I'm not sure what the advertising law is in other countries).
Let's be honest, governments make huge sums of money from alcohol this is why the laws are less severe.
@David S: Don't you realise that when somebody is injured or killed as a result of a drunken person or a drunken driver that this is infact second hand drinking causing harm to a fellow citizen? Think about it, it's easy to grasp ! |
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Olympicles
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Well said Billybags, ---- lets ban everything. Us smokers have to inhale all the exhaust fumes that Prescott emits from his 2 Jags so why can't he, and the other croneys, inhale our tobacco?
At least, with smoking, you can go somewhere else, but I can't escape the fumes emitted from Blairs worldwide holidays. |
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Joan el guiri
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It was tried in the US in the 1920's
As with drugs, the bad guys became rich. Companies like Segrams in Canada became richer producing alcohol for export to the states.
One reason why drunkeness has increased in the UK is that the police and town councils turn a blind eye to it.
In the past, if a pub had too many problems with underage drinkers and drunkeness, it lost its licence.
For some reason this no longer happens. If were were not in the UK. I would assume that brown envelopes were being passed to the police, but this is Britain and that would be unthinkable.
The fact is that dunkeness on our streets is the norm.
Controlling licences worked before and it could work again.
The question is why are licence conditions not being enforced?
In this case, we can only blame our government both national and local.
P.S. I can see no good reason why pubs can't have 'smokers', just like they used to have lounge bars and saloon bars in the bad old days.
Bow down before the blessed Tony! |
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Chadders
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Good question. I don't see why they couldn't have had smoking only pubs staffed by smokers. And David S has never heard of people having to deal with second hand alcohol? Tell that to my friend whose wife and two children were killed by a drunk driver or the wife beaten by her drunk husband. |
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bow
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maybe it's time to change your patch....you seem a bit irrate?!? |
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DARK LORD
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it is going to banned one day thank god
second hand smoke does not kill never been proved.
car should be banned as well thy are killing this planet what is worse than that and i bet most of these anti smokers drive. Hippocrates |
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waterlily
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What a good idea!
I hate to see drunken people too! It is immoral and disgusting and the same like drugs however people are claiming this to be legal.. yes, because it is a good money for the state but there's no difference in their effects.. |
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tegidfoel
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Answer: Why not...It worked so well the last time it was tried, Right!
By the way, I'm a pi$$ed off ex smoker myself (COPD) is what they call it today. Say what you want, it was MY choice...and the wrong one looking back as it is!
I should have taken up drinking but with my luck the liver would have quit years ago. |
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Showtunes
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Then driving!
I cant stand all those horrible fumes that people are spilling into the air, and all the innocent people that die every year due to roadrage and carelessness. One look away and a child can die, yet this horrendous evil continues! |
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jon h
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I Don't drink or smoke but i believe that everyone has the right to.
But I do get pissed off with smokers and drinkers who think that cause they do those things it gives them extra rights. When people are drunk they can become offensive and violent very quickly or just be sick everywhere. and smokers seem to think that everyone should respect them for their addiction. but whatever.
My view is now do what you want providing it doesn't get in my face. Smoking blantley does whenever you go to a pub (or used to, i live in Wales) and you end up stinking of the stuff but at least with alcohol one drink doesn't make you as antisocial as one smoke.
Oh well its all person oppinions i guess |
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Ms. Informed
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the US already tried that. it didn't work. and so now we have public drunkeness laws and alcohol bans on public recreational areas...
the problem with alcohol versus smoking is that alcohol is concealable--i can put some vodka in a juice bottle and it will still look like juice; i can go about my day with my spiked drink and no one will be the wiser, but smoking leaves a tell-tale trail of scent and smoke.
it would be so much better if people just stopped doing these things. but, we like what we like...and for some, smoking and/or drinking make them feel good. i drink and smoke...and i'm not too miffed about the smoking ban--but then again, i only smoked in place/around people that were ok with it (and that's the rub, most people smoke with disregard to other people around them) |
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barrister86
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Now that they have banned smoking, the liquor bans will come next. The liquor lobby is a lot more powerful than the smoking... |
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I buy my US Flag from China
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That's why drunk driving is illegal because it kills.
Second hand smoke kills. |
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