My son almost killed his dad with a shotgun he was loaned. Do you think the owner should be partialy at fault

just wondering...

Nope, you son is a ******* idiot. the owner shouldn't have given it to him, but your son is the person who pulled the trigger.
You just want to find some way to absolve your son of wrong-doing by trying to place the blame on another. You are screwed up too.

â™¥ gina â™¥

NO, your son is considered full grown therefore everything he does is on him.

tamrn02

No.....guns don't kill people, people kill people. Doesn't matter WHERE the gun comes from it's the responsibility of the user to use with care.

linz_b

no i don't. as your son is 18,i believe he is responsible for his own actions. sorry about your situation, though

Mr. Lizard

No. You are looking too hard for someone else to blame.

Don't Ask Stupid Questions

No. I don't think that at all.

Trista

No I don't think so. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I think that during this traumatic incident, you feel like you should blame someone...and it seems you found someone.

Shannon R

I think it's the son's fault. For carrying a weapon in the first place. Not a good idea.

Vernon Dozier

No, this is your son's fault. Would you blame Hershey's chocolate for poor quality dental work?

Brownie

It is a tragic situation, and if his dad makes a statement stating it was accidental, it may alleviate some of the time he will serve. He did however cause great harm to another human being and that responsibility falls on him. He has to take responsibility for his actions. He knows the damage a gun can cause.

tincoatr

NO. He may be criminally responsible for illegally selling a firearm but shouldn't have any responsibility for what your son did to his father. People have to be responsible for their own actions and not try to put blame on others (even partial blame).

And are you asking so you can sue the person who gave your son the gun?

Ramona-please step back!

is 18 a minor?
I don't think this seems like the entire story and ultimately HE pulled the trigger, right?

oldmarine08

No, your son is at fault and no one else, you can blame others all you want but he is responsible for this alone and if he shot his dad with malice he SHOULD go to prison!

georgestraitfan

First of all...why did you give the gun to the kid without showing him how to properly use one?! The safety, using one, etc. Well, he should have been taught gun safety and none of this would've happened.

Mystee_Rain

Wait? how did he get shot? And if he shot his dad because of a time out that's worse, your son was plenty old enough to know that he was doing wrong when he bought or got it. The whole reason he says he had it sounds kinda iffy to me. I'd get a better idea of what was really going on and why. As for the previous owner? I'd still have to hear the whole story

Ryan R

i honestly think it is partly your fault, since you let the gun be in his possision he used it!

Kim [Due 8-13-08]

Okay, let's get this straight... first of all your son "accidentally" shot the dad? If he accidentally shot it then it is his fault for not knowing proper gun safety before buying/borrowing a gun. Yes, the owner is going to be at fault because when the owner purchased a gun he signed a contract stating that he is responsible for any activity that happens with the gun and is liable for anything done by minors or anyone else.. but personally I think your son knew what he was getting into when he got the gun.. so it's not the owner's fault that your son has bad judgement and doesn't know how to work the gun. He intended on hurting someone with the gun.. it's just this time the wrong person got hurt...

jrow123

The brunt of responsibility for this tragedy lies on the shoulders of your son. The seller of the gun did not pull the trigger.

Banana â™¥â™¥

you shouldn't be using gun's, its not hte person who sold it to you fault your son is the one you shot your husband , no one but the son should be blamed , violence is not the answer dont worry im sure things will turn out to the best! ;)

Jacky

I hope not..because in my opinion..it's completely your sons fault.

JYogi

The seller will get in some trouble IF your son was under 18 when he was given the gun but if he was 18 then its not the seller/owners problem.
BUT
first you say he was loaded a gun and then you say he was sold the gun?
There will surely be charges against this owner for selling a firearm to minor IF he did indeed give it or sell it to your son BUT I suspect he will claim your son stole it and it also seems like your son is not a minor as he is 18.
BUT no one is to blame but your son. You never point a gun at someone unless you are ready to kill. You never put your finger on the trigger till you are going to kill. Your son is exactly where he belongs!
Be thankful your husband is ok or else your son would be there a lot longer! Your son CLEARLY has anger issues if he was "cooling off" by holding a shotgun and pointing it at someone. Your son has something really wrong and is into some serious stuff if he is in need of a gun to protect the family.

Also, stand up and take responsibility for this as well...
You should have never let your son have a gun in the house, you should be aware and are responsible for anything that is in your house.

Everyone in this world should be taught proper gun safety!

â•”Kimmehâ•— â™ªâ™«

No. The owner can't control who's hands guns get into. Unless he makes it a priority to sell to a lot of minors, the previous owner who sold it is NOT at fault. Its tragic what happened though... there needs to be stricter laws on owning a gun.

Not trying to sound offensive here, but it kind of sounds like you're looking for someone to blame, other than your son. He made a terrible mistake, I'm sorry to hear what you're going through.

momoffour

There's no question that the person who loaned your son the gun should be prosecuted for loaning the gun, but it was your son's fault for what happened to his dad. He was old enough to understand that guns that are misused can hurt or even kill people. He should have been more careful with it and his misuse of it is no one's fault but his. Blaming someone else for what your son did is not going to help him. People need to understand that they are responsible for their own actions. It's not this other man's fault that there was an argument. Maybe 28 years in prison will teach your son not to pick up a gun the next time he gets in an argument.

Soozie Q

No, I don't think they should be partially to blame. I don't understand why people sue the owner of the gun or the store where it was bought, or the company who made the gun! It was your son's fault! You say it was an accident but why was he holding the gun while arguing with his dad in the first place? Your son is 18 and asked the owner of the gun if he could borrow it. The owner is not to blame. Maybe nobody is to blame, it was an accident! Why, then, do you feel you have to sue someone? Accidents happen, sometimes with tragic results. What exactly are the charges against your son? Surely his dad isn't pressing charges, so is he being charged with unlawful use of a weapon? 28 years to life does seem ridiculous and terribly unfair for just a careless accident. However I don't see how you will gain anything by sueing the owner of the gun. He's probably in some trouble anyway over letting your son borrow the gun in the first place. I hope your husband is ok and I also hope your son does no jail time for an accident. Just keep positive.

blutic11

You may be able to sue the owner of he gun and recover compensation (insurance may apply as well). I'd recommend consulting an attorney asap. People that own guns have an obligation to ensure they don't fall into untrained hands, such as a child's. It's different if we're talking about someone selling a gun to another adult.

Sissy A

Barley 18? Even at 15 he is old enough to know that a gun has the potential to kill and HE made the decision to get it even tho you say your family is against guns. As a mother myself I understand your pain and also the need to blame someone else but the fact is he went out and got the gun, the fact that he shot it and that is what led to this terrible situation, Unless he had intent to kill his dad and there is a lot more you are not telling us he will not serve that long in jail because it was an accident and our courts will see it as such. In answer to your question NO the other person is not the one to blame for this situation.

Ehrstabk

You're son is also at fault for buying the gun, so i doubt the seller is going to get it worse.

Payment

Both are to blame. The initial gun owner for allowing a careless person to take posession of it and your son for carelessness of it.
I do not abide by USA's gun laws there needs to be stricter laws governing them.

ya. the gun is not in your sons name now is it? thing is however that your son did shoot him, so he is the person with the most fault if you where to ask me. next would be the person who gave him the gun, he is wrong for what he did, but you must not think that he is the main reason for what your kid did. something should be done to the person who gave him the gun.

do not get me wrong i think we should have guns if we like, but really it must be done legally and in this case it was not.

wiliemom

Who raised this child? Is there and blame there?

Paul S

To all of you people who responded yes, I ask this question;

Is it McDonald's fault that the US is so overweight. If I eat a Big Mac, I know the risk.

While carrying around a gun, your son obviously had some intention of shooting at somebody with it. We are no longer living in a vigilante society.

Come on people, quit looking to blame others for the results of your own ignorance.

Steve

Yes, the person who loaned your son the gun is partially at fault. I don't understand why people keep saying that your son is 18 so he should take full responsibility for his actions. I love how our society sees 18 as this magic number that suddenly turns someone into a rational human being. Take a look at the world, it is not a rational place, particularly for an 18 year old boy. Also, I don't know if this is the case with your son, there are some people with mental health issues that are more likely to resort to violence in arguments and would definitely not use a gun if one weren't available. In fact, the most useful method to prevent firearm suicides and homicides is simple means restriction. The person who gave that gun to your young son has blood on his/her hands as well. But of course in this country, where autonomy is valued above community health, everyone thinks the guy who pulls the trigger is the only one to blame, when really it is a societal problem that has created a situation where this kid feels he needs a gun and a gun is available to him. And Paul S, YES, McDonald's is partially at fault for the US being so obese. They spend millions of dollars every year marketing a product (especially to youth) that they know to be extemely unhealthy. Although you are utlimately the one eating the Big Mac, McDonal's has spent a great deal of time and effort to persuade you to do something that they know to be detrimental to your health.

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