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angrymammal
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You are right, Prison doesn't work. There are a whole range of sentencing options available to the UK courts that are effective in reducing reconviction rates (Accredited Offending Behaviour Programmes). There are systems and processes that have been proven to be very effective in protecting the public from those who have been released from prisons at the end of the custodial part of their sentences (MAPPA). There are effective programmes for deterring youth crimes (Youth Inclusion Programmes).
None of these successful initiatives get the credit they deserve, they don't sell papers and they are not as effective at winning votes as the increasing rhetoric of 'toughness' is. |
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sweet_lil_cricket
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I MYSELF AM FOR THE DEATH PENALTY, WHEN A MAN SETS OUT AND TAKES AN INNOCENT PERSON'S LIFE, THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN THE DEATH PENALTY.... |
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noctec
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Maybe instead of that, we could implant reward/punishment electrodes in known crimials, and have a person watch their every move through their lives. If they so much as think of doing anything threatening - hit them straight in their brain's punishment center with a strong bolt of correction. |
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cashmere
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There are several Buddhist philosophy type programs in prison and half-way houses that are showing a high success rate. |
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John A
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Do prisons work ? Does the threat of a prison stretch deter recidivism ? The answer to question 1 is a qualified yes, because the criminal is off the streets, but question 2 is a no. A major element of prisons is cost to the taxpayer, because not only is society the victim of crime, but has to foot the bill for it as well. I am personally in favour of keeping prisons to keep the criminal off the streets, but exporting our criminal classes to more economic climes, where labour costs of prison warders are less. I would be quite happy to set up a prison in a developing african nation, staff it and charge the government £200 a week for housing the offenders. If I housed say 10.000 crims, this would be a saving to the taxpayer of £3 million a week. OK you won't might have to overlook a few human rights issues on the way, and prison visits may cause a bit of a problem, but if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. |
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I think education is important. For some, prison does work but not all. Sometimes prisons are too easy on some prisoners. Some get TV, they get to go shoppin etc. Firstly they shouldn't be rewarded for their behaviour and secondly they should be educated about what they did and why it's wrong.
I don't think they should be too harsh on them for example by killing them, but they should be educated in a nice manner so that they might actually listen and think about what they've done.
The thing about prison is it can sometimes be a great place for prisoners to just sit there and reflect on what they've done and really think about it. And with the right education, it could probably help a great deal.
Perhaps prisoners should be shown things from other peoples point of view, for example shown a documentary about a child who saw their parents die right in front of his or her eyes, so perhaps the prisoner can sympathise and realise that what they are doing is hurting other people. |
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old codger
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Take away the easy care system prisons have become and let the inmates sweat it out with no air conditioning and bland rations. Today the prison system treats inmates better than low income families live. No TV, Limited radio and no magazines could help make prisoners feel like they are doing hard time. How about two meals a day instead of 3 and no sugar, coffee or other treats. |
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paul_601
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Not everybody in prison thinks it's cushy and most don't plan on going back. Thing is once you've been in you're watched more closely when you get out and also it's harder to get jobs and alot of other stuff.
I've been in once and am back in court in September - just made a stupid mistake and I could be going back. I promised myself and others that it wouldn't happen so now I am just hoping for the best. Some of the stuff suggested on here is just a bit crazy and wouldn't do anything for anyone. |
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greensea_lady
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Public stocks and Pillory |
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1oui5e
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I think some kind of military style punishment is a good idea, especially for the younger offenders. I often watch a programme called Bad lads army, where criminals can choose to do time or basically join a military corp. It really works and you see these guys change. Teaches them a bit of respect.
I also believe that for serious offenders, life should mean life, losing your freedom for the rest of your life is surely a far worse punishment than death. Then prison works. |
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charlsyeh
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prisons do not work?where do you get that. i imagine the thousands of prisoners behind the walls will disagree with you..it get the meanest and most violent people behind bars but you say it does not work. thos that are extremely violent and commit murders will disagree with you while they are strapped down on that stretcher with a iv going |
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glyntinmyeye
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Why should Society change to cater for criminals. Michael Howard had the right policy lock them up for longer, while they are in prison they are not out on the streets committing more crimes. If they want to become law abiding members of society they will have longer to reflect on their loss of freedom, and what it means. |
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Henry & Carryn A
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Prisons would work if:
A/ There were enough of them and they were fully staffed.
B/ The prisoners were treated as such instead of "poor, misguided souls whose Human Rights outweigh those of their victims.
Until we make prisons what they are supposed to be (ie a deterrent) instead of a sabbatical for career criminals, with Sky TV, Playstations and so on, there is not a snowball's chance in hell that they will work.
Of course, if you want to be really hard on them, then force them to listen to Bananarama CDs for a week.
By the way, I suspect you are going to get quite a few replies on this one, coz we're all fed up with the current situation.
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one shot
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UK crminals see the system as a soft touch.
Take a leaf from Adolf Hitler's book. Set up penal Regiments and put them on the front line. It would certainly cause a sudden drop in crime and solve our manpower shortage problems in Iraq & Afghanistan. |
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Miz Thang
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Why don't prisons work? Your taking murders,rapist, child predators off the street and locking them up, where they deserve to be. Maybe it's our laws and plea bargains that don't work. I think anyone who commits a felony should not be entitled to a plea bargain. That's how these people out of jail and commit and same crimes again. |
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wonkyfella
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Stocks, flogging, public humiliation.
It's ok for someone to mug, steal, or break into someones house..............yet human rights suggest that they deserve to be treated with dignity.
Make them pay in the community, where the community can see who is ruining their lives. |
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Polar Molar
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Public floggings!! If they killed somebody like a child throw them in with the regular prisoners they would know what to do with him!! |
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Ms Blue
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Society will never be fixed well enough to prevent crime. There has to be tough penalties for certain acts of crime. This should be statewide. Those that hurt children should be in jail or worse. |
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hironymus
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Why do you say prisons don't work? As long as the thugs are locked up in the joint they can not rape or rob or kill anyone other than one of their fellow prisoners, and quite frankly I can't work up a whole lot of sympathy for those. As for alternatives - kill them all might sound very attractive, but of course it is a little more extreme that most people would go for. (Including me) |
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capa-de-monty
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they should build a new town called prison town like all the convicted people stay on one side and all the un-convicted on the other.Austrailia's doin ok. |
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dizzy
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Bring back hanging for the more serious crimes, the stocks and branding for smaller crimes orrrrrrrrrr to use the modern day methods, give them all vouchers, offer holidays and take them out on day trips :-/ |
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OhEmGee
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A "Justice Field" as demonstrated on the british sci fi comedy Red Dwarf.
Anytime you commit a crime within the justice field, the same thing happens back to you. You commit arson, you are set on fire. You try to stab someone, you are stabbed instead.
Of course this isn't really possible, but something like this would be amazing to use. :) |
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rat bag
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They could be perminantly installed in either the Big Brother house or on the Jerry Springer/Jeremy Kyle Show. That way they'd be entertaining the rest of us and keeping the streets clean AND getting Jeremy Kyle off the streets! |
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heidi the ghosthunter
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bring back hanging its cheaper |
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philipscown
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Get rid of political correctness.....
The human psychophysiology has evolved to learn from negative reinforcement when performance is bad. If you burn yourself it hurts and you learn; if you go near flame and a parent hits you it hurts and you learn. However, if a parent says "that wasn't a good idea, was it?" then little learning takes place.
Now translate this to social settings, when we are concerned for the good of society. A kid steals, his parents hit him - he learns. A kid steals, his mates have sevral months congratulating him, he goes to court for a couple of hours, he's told (for the seventh time) that if he does it again he'll b e sorry - he learns. He learns that there is no real consequence to stealing, and that from time-to-time, he'll have a boring afternoon in court listenig to a fart in a wig.
Political correctness, no smacking, giving the victim-perpertrator 15 months to prepare their case, fails to recognise the biological fact that punishment for misdemeanors needs to be immediate, appropriate, and largely physical (but not to excess). It's not that prison doesn't work, but that hte punishment takes too long, and is often inappropriate.
Rant over. |
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idealhousewife
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Prisons work because they keep criminals off the streets instead of burgling our houses. If they are inside doing their time for a crime then they cannot do it again until free. Why do people believe that prison doesn't work? Ridiculous. |
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superman
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an eye for an eye |
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Shelley H
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Bring Back the death penalty and toughen up our laws.The police do their job only to have the courts slap them on the hand and set them free. |
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