Should abortion remain a woman's right to choose, even though it is probably immoral?
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Should abortion remain a woman's right to choose, even though it is probably immoral?
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Things do not become illegal, just because they are immoral. Moral decisions are usually made by individuals, rather than by act of government.
In the abortion debate, there are many anti-abortionists who confuse the issue of morality with the law. Abortion, they reason, should be illegal because it is immoral.
By contrast, the "pro-choice" lobby argue that abortion should be a woman's right to choose. However, just because women have the right to choose, it does not necessarily follow that any choice they make will be a good moral choice. Giving people the right to choose means that people can make bad choices!
The strange thing is that I never hear feminists acknowledging that abortion is a moral problem and I never hear anti-abortionists acknowledging that there could be significant problems in outlawing abortion. Additional Details Joan H seems to reject morality completely. As long as you do what is right for you, you can "***" (sic) the rest of the world. What a depressing outlook!
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Veritas
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You don't state whether you think that it is acceptable that morality doesn't necessarily play a roll in law making. I think that it should but, unfortunately, often doesn't. Our moral code derives from fundamental Christian principles, and that they both should inform the laws that we choose to live under. I don't think that mankind was capable of creating a set of moral principle's to live by, without drawing from religious teachings because, how would they know that they had created a truly moral code?
However, I am well aware that some of our laws seemed to have had a morality bypass during their making. And abortion, is top of the list for me. I know that all those things that might be considered immoral, can't necessarily be made illegal. But in those areas where we do create legislation, then surely there shouldn't be a conflict between morality and the law.
Back to abortion, which I think can only be justified in the most extreme cases. Feminists, in their zeal to give more and more power to women, seem to have bullied the government and medical researches into giving them what they want, "The Woman's right to choose". If ever there was a bit of creative morality, that's it. That's why I stated above, the danger in mankind inventing morality out of thin air. The woman's, "right to choose" can be re-interpreted as "the baby has no inherent right to life" and "the man, also, has no say in the matter". This looks like feminists gaining power for its own sake, regardless of moral considerations. Isn't it also a direct assault on what it is to be a woman, caring, nurturing. Shouldn't this operate at an instinctive level. If we don't care for our children why should we care for each other, not to mention the old, the sick.
I believe that there are about three hundred and eighty thousand abortions in the UK alone, each year. Because the legislators have given a green light to abortion, and the medical profession are quite happy to carry them out, then women think that all moral considerations have been taken care of on their behalf. But, as you point out in your question, women still have a moral choice to make. Following my logic, abortion, on the scale that currently exists, wouldn't be allowed under the law, because I would not pass immoral legislation. Where is the so called 'Human Rights' for unborn, never to be born, children.
Feminists, don't see a moral problem, because the left wing zealots don't believe in God or religion. They are truly operating in their own moral universe. |
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Give me Liberty
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You have been seriously brainwashed. It is the pro lifers that are immoral, not the pro choice. No pro choice person is forcing a pro life person to abort. Yet the pro lifers want to force their seriously flawed logic on others and take away the God Given Right to Abortion. God himself created abortion and uses it every day in the form of miscarriage. And he does it for a reason. God created abortion to end suffering of abused children, raped women, and women not supported by a father, in addition to many other reasons. And if you believe in a loving God you know that abortion is not murder, because a loving God will protect the soul of the fetus and give it eternal life until it is again used.
Only a hateful god such as the god of the pro life movement would kill a fetus. Such a god, and his followers should not be trusted. |
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inkberryfairy
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I believe that it is a woman's right to choose.
What I want to know is, what would this country do with the million plus babies who are born to women who really don't want them? |
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Roxy
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You will hear plenty of horror stories about pre-legal abortions performed on a kitchen table with a knitting needle. Do we really want to go back to that? Abortion is a personal decision - it's one of the hardest things a woman will decide in her life but it's her decision to make and hers alone. The far right fascists who try to outlaw abortion should shut their holes and concentrate on making life better for people who already exist, not worry about a bunch of cells. And I do not believe it's immoral. No-one has the right to judge and until you've been through it yourself, you can have no opinion of any sort. |
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High On Life
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yeah, that is pretty strange, and yet pretty common LOL and yeah, it should be a woman's right to choose, because people have free will to do moral or immoral acts. Why should abortion be any different? |
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bringmesunshine is back!!!
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Your morals are your own. The vatican said in the 1960s that if 100,000 women had to die just to save one foetus then it would be worth it - that's how adamant they were against abortion.
To be against abortion is to be against women. Women from the start of time have contolled their own fertillity by ways and means, legally and illegally. The anti abortion brigade don't realise that they will increase the sale of coat hangers, crochet hooks and increase female deaths. Look at the statistics of countries who don't have abortion or contraception - their female death rate is much increased.
ON THEIR HEADS BE IT. |
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rastus7742
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The true bottom line on this question is how do you stop unwanted pregnancies? |
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Rachel
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I think a woman should be able to choose if she wants an abortion or not, the baby may have been conceived though a rape or an abusive relationship |
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Amber
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I happen to be very anti~abortion but I also believe that G~d gave everyone free will. Even if you make it illegal people will still do it and they will do it in more dangerous ways to do it. I do feel that it is immoral to have an abortion but even more immoral to take away someones free will |
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In The Basement
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Its always the individuals right. The sick people who want to control other peoples decisions have never lived and faced real issues |
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Sus
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I had a friend once whose mother was verociously anti-abortion. She told him when he was five that he was never wanted and was a mistake. He was pretty messed up as a result.
Yes I think it should be a woman's right to choose. No, I wouldn't have one myself. But the alternatives are far worse - back street abortions, ruined lives, etc. It's not pleasant, and I don't think it should be allowed past three months for other than medical reasons, which it usually is not, but it's a fact. I find it worrying that this issue is becoming so debated now in the UK because of what's been going on in America. I'd rather we focus on averting unwanted pregnancies and helping people rather than assuming the problem will just go away and we can force them to carry to term. |
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AlphaOne_
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Yes, I think it should remain a woman's right to choose. I think your statement: "By contrast, the "pro-choice" lobby argue that abortion should be a woman's right to choose. However, just because women have the right to choose, it does not necessarily follow that any choice they make will be a good moral choice. Giving people the right to choose means that people can make bad choices!" is absolutely valid.
It has always been a woman's choice to abort a child (I mean, there were means to that end even in the Middle Ages, most likely a long time before that too), and it was always a moral question that different women found different answers to.
Besides the fact that now abortion is safer for the mother than it used to be (some of those miscarriage-causing ailments could well kill the mother as well; and we know what was caused by a bad doctor in Dirty Dancing), I don't see what has changed. While abortion is legal, regulations can be observed regarding the quality of service, preserving the health of the mother and her capability of bearing children in the future, which I consider a very important argument against outlawing abortion...
The arguments back and forth are infinite; the fact is that whatever the law, abortion will be practiced, as it always was. Why not have it right and proper and legal, though on really shaky moral grounds? |
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moonjuice
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Yes. |
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SlapADog
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I am for abortion, mostly liberals do it so they are killing off their liberal beliefs. |
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joan h
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its your life do what you think best for you *** thr rest of the world |
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BabeHeart
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Why is it immoral? If any of us had been aborted, we'd not know it...it should absolutely be the woman's choice...no one should be forced to endure a pregnancy unwillingly whether she got that way through her own negligence or not. |
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Dolleyes
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yes! |
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tokala
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women can choose.
abortion is not immoral
what if the woman was raped, and is 16, and have to go to school, and is not ready to have a child ?
it's an extreme case, but abortion could be the best solution sometimes... |
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HELEN P
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i believe it should be the womans choice to abort they are the main caregivers usually so yes it should be their choice what would be the most immoral would to bring a child into the world that wasn't wanted and most definitely as a result would feel,know and resent this possibly resulting in mental illness or worse |
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Beeg Juan
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You should never include a false premise in a question. "even though it is immoral" is a judgement on your part that people inherently must acknowledge as true in order to answer.
Imposing your perspective on others like this is immoral. |
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zoomer
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There's a good article on the ethics of aborting Down's Syndrome's kids on the abortionno.org site.
Of course if you can come to the logical conclusion that abortion is actually killing a human being you might readily conclude that it is immoral.
Abortion isn't the better or lessor of two evils, as some like to claim. It is clearly an indescribable evil... saline solutions and chopping the most innocent to bits slowly.
Savagely torturing a human being to death should clearly be immoral. |
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akisha
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You know i think abortion should get outlawed. To me it is wrong kiling the baby who did not ask to come. |
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Gypsie
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It's a tough one. I couldn't have one as it would haunt me for the rest of my life and luckily I have never been in a position to have to consider one, having 3 very beautiful little girls whom I adore but in the cases of rape etc I can understand women opting for abortion. I don't, however, think it should be used as a form of contraception... I know a couple of girls who have had 3 and think nothing of it. I think that is disgusting and shouldn't be allowed. |
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erik c
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Personally I'm against abortion, and would never encourage someone to do it, but at the same time I really dint care what other people do. Its up to them. I do think that pro-life people would be better served to give more support to the women who do decide to keep their babies, that would encourage more to keep their babies rather than opt for an abortion. I don't even feel strongly on this issue, I think it is almost a non issue in reality. I don't even think about it and I think people who spend a lot of time on this issue could spend it better elsewhere. I think its wrong but I just don't care. |
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ticktoc...
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it seems you already have a opion but me personally i would not get a abortion but i let other people make their own choices.Ă¥nd on the subject what is "moral" maybe the person getting the aborrtion have diffrent morals then you so try to be little more open minded |
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