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Ophelia
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Yup. I've got a fairly long-winded arguement as to why "under God" should be removed from the Pledge as it wasn't there when the Pledge was originally written back in 1892. But to spare everyone that, heh, I'll just post a favorite link of mine that has a good history of the Pledge for that.
http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=16480
Needless to say "under God" has simply got to go.
Same for "In God We Trust" as that was made the national motto in 1956 to replace E Pluribus Unum(Latin for "Many out of One" or "Out of One, Many"...which seems more suited to what America stands for than anything else far as I'm concerned). Considering the era of McCarthyism and Cold War in 1956, that explains a lot to the replacement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum
Frankly, I'd rather hear E Pluribus Unum as a national motto for a pluralistic society than "In God We Trust", which certainly discriminates against non-Christians in saying that America trusts in God, but not Allah, Buddha, Krishna, etc.
I don't think it's too much trouble to make a few minor changes(for that's all they are, minor. Switch mottos, snip a couple of words, not that hard...) and make the government truly neutral and secular in protecting all walks of life and religions. People just don't want to make an effort, especially an unpopular one, no matter how much it works to serve the common good. |
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college_republicans_club
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No. Thats part of who we are as a nation. Why on earth would you want to conceal your heritage? |
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QuiteNewHere
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No. Much of the world as you know it now was based on religion and values stemming from it, including justice, honesty and freedom. The belief in "God" is universal. Why remove the word "god"?.
What will you replace it with? |
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Pancakes
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That would be difficult. Our Declaration of Independence says that our rights were given to us by God. |
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proudpreemieparents
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No, America was born based on Judeo-Christian values. Our founding documents were written by God fearing people in the hopes that the citizens would be "kept in line" by their Creator's rules in addition to what was/is law. |
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Pamela
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Of course we should - if you think we are truly ready to reap the consequences. Look what happened just since we've removed prayer from schools.
God will not go where He is not wanted. As a society if we make the choice to REMOVE Him we must be willing to accept the chaos, destruction and reprobate society that will follow.
I say let's keep Him in. |
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Tonatiuh
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i don't see anything wrong w/ religious references.... but i think people need to stop saying that this country was founded on christian principles when women weren't allowed to vote, when blacks were treated as less than human, and where native Americans were decimated during manifest destiny to create this "christian nation"!!!!! |
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UOIOIOIO
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YES!!!!! |
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Oh Tami !!
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Never, ever!
It's part of our history
Should we wipe out, "I have a dream?"
And change it to: "I have a good idea on somthin?" |
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Demon Doll
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I don't care *what* is printed on my money, as long as I can still spend it! |
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WindWalker10
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That would entail, among other things, editing the original documents that formed the foundation of this country, currency and coin, and we'd be chiseling LOTS of sculptures and inscriptions off of gov't. buildings as well as covering over lots of murals. Just for starters.
We've a good dent in it over the last 50-60 years and a casual look around will reveal what a self-absorbed, self-centered, culture we've bred.
I would suggest we're heading in the wrong direction. |
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guardianofdoves
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One thing I do not get is the separation of church and state, yet the church wants to tell all how to vote. It is unreal. |
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007
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no, don't let the secular progressive right loonies get into your head. the for fathers put the separation of church and state in the constitution to protect the church, not the state. It is OK to have god in our pledge and on our money. In our schools and public places. |
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hedy
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America was founded (be it the wrong way to do it) on "christian" laws and principals. Why should we take "God" out of everything when He is the center of our laws, conduct, etc....? If we do we should just start over and change the name of the country along with the laws and everything that has been used from the Cristian religion to shape who we are as a country. |
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Lucky
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Sure, lets just toss it out along with decency, discipline, accountability, compassion, respect and everything else that is of value. A true liberal state can achieved as a result of the anarchy. |
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agodefeat
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Umm...how else will Jesus know that we still worship him???? |
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papaz71
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You can take God out of the references but you can't take him out of the process. |
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renclrk
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Yes! And .... The bit about bombs bursting in the air is not doing the country any favours right now!!(anthem) |
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Katrina
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no! take God out of America and we'll all be sent to our death. |
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STIFLE IT LIBS 2
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They need more.Especially in the schools.Half them little foul-mouthed crotch nuggets need an exorcism. |
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Mark D
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No. We should not "get rid of" them. What we should get rid of is the first religion clause of the First Amendment. Or perhaps we should repeal that clause and replace it with something else. |
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fr_chuck
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thou shall not kill , there goes all the laws on murder
thou shall not steal, there goes all the laws on stealing
And since our nation was founded on a Chrsitian beleif, there is no reason to get rid of it |
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Huevos Rancheros
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Why not just get rid of atheist scum? It would be alot easier. |
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The Mr. Pine
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Its too much trouble but I would try. Religions are special interest groups and too powerful. They cost us a lot of deductions for charity in the Reagan tax cut measures. I would definitely toss the Vatican embassy out. Too far is too much. |
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kveldulfgondlir
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Yes, we should also get rid of any law that has a moral implication that is an any way similar to ANY religious moral belief, or that was writtes, supported, or passed by anyone whose religious belief was a factor in that process...
and yes I AM being serious in this |
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cyberdroid_2000
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Why sould we?.. This nation was founded in the base of religion, only those who proclaim the 'political correctness' will endorse something of that sort, who are them? the liberals..God and religion is the reason that this Country is so great, look at countries in the rest of the world, what are they? are you an american or an allien trying to bring your ideas here?..☺ |
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IOU101
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Our History and Our Heritage is something we can't change, or for me, don't want to. I heard someone once say " add the word " your " Before : one nation under "Your" God. Might make things a little easier .. |
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Dogzilla
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I'll go you one further! Not only should we can religious references in government, but religion should be outright BANNED in the entire country. Religion is just a throwback to times of ignorance and superstition. We're beyond all that now. |
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