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leafyqueen
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she was supposed to be undercover and messing that up could have theoretically gotten her killed.
however, once Armitage came out and said he's the one who did it, the media lost interest. they couldn't figure out how to keep blaming Bush and Cheney for it, so they dropped it completely.
never mind that the NYT keeps publishing national security secrets on the front page so the terrorists can see everything. the editors of that rag need to go to jail post-haste. |
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Beach_Bum
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She was a covert field operative, and her status was covert, ie not public knowledge. A field ops job is to develop new contacts, and maintain the ones they have. Now that everyone knows she was a CIA operative, anyone she had contact with in a foreign country is taboo as well. The foreign governments KNOW she is a field op that is trying to recruit people to spy for us, which is a 2 fold problem. #1 her cover is blown, and she will never be able to exploit targets for information ever again, #2 the targets she had and developed in those coutries are now considered suspects themselves by their own government, simply because they are associated with her. What do you think happens to people that their governments think are working for the US CIA? my guess is a bullet in the back of the head and an unmarked grave. So thats the big deal, the US loses lots of valuable intelligence from sources on the ground, she can NEVER do that job again, in fact i doubt if she can even TRAVEL to any of those countries, and i bet there is a long trail of corpses in other countries that came out of all this. And no shes not dead
...and to follow up and address all you people taking the 'she was a desk jockey' route...it doesnt matter what she really did, beacuse this is what the head of the investigation, DoJ Special Council Patrick Fitzgerald, concluded, and i quote from a press conference on October 28, 2005: "In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community. Valerie Wilson's friends, neighbors, college classmates had no idea she had another life. The fact that she was a CIA officer was not well-known, for her protection or for the benefit of all us. It's important that a CIA officer's identity be protected, that it be protected not just for the officer, but for the nation's security. Valerie Wilson's cover was blown in July 2003."
So thats what the official investigation turned up, and thats the basis for the legal action. So who cares what she did? as far as the investigation is concerned, her cover was blown in 2003...Plus the investigation is NOT over yet, Fitzgerald is still Special Counsel and its ongoing. Just because no one has directly been charged with leaking her name doesnt mean no one will. The transcipt of the quoted press conference is in the link below for those that care to read it. |
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patrioticpeladac
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http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200507180801.asp
If anyone wants to talk about breach of security, let's talk about Sandy berger. |
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Lt. Dan
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We have people who function in intelligence gathering, or contacting potential defectors and it is kind of handy to keep their identities secret. That is why you have never seen a snazzy CIA uniform for field operatives. The term secret or deep cover implies that we shouldn't put their business out on the street.
It generally works better for them to not be known so the other side doesnt just follow them around. |
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Proud to be an AMERICAN
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Apparently there is not one.
NO ONE has been charged with the crime of leaking her name - apparently it was not illegal.
Scooter Libby was charged with lying to investigators about conversations he had, which IS a serious matter. |
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TheHumbleOne
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My opinion: To the best of my knowledge, V. Plame worked at the CIA as an analyst. She was not an undercover spy. She worked at the CIA as I worked in an office at our local university.
This entire flap is to try in some way to discredit Pres. Bush. The prosecutor, Mr. Fitzgerald, knew a long time ago that the source of Robert Nowak's article was Richard Armitage and not S. Libby, but he trudged on. Why?
Ask yourself, do you remember every word of every conversation that took place 3 years ago?
The left is trying to prove that Pres. Bush tried to discredit J. Wilson because he contradicted the president. The fact is that this couple was well known in Washington circles. I think the N.Y. Post came out with an article that said the person most responsible for "outing" his wife was J. Wilson himself. |
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Rabbit's Girl
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If you don't know then why critisize. Plus, you're undercover if you work for the CIA.
You're not supposed to leak names! |
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Tony S
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Not everybody at the CIA is a covert agent. It's a big operation in a big building. Lots of the employees there do things like mopping the restrooms and changing the network printer toner. If Valerie were really a deep cover agent the last thing she would do is have her husband.. easily smoked out by Who's Who or Peoplefinders.. post a cage-rattling, inflamatory letter to the editor of a big city newspaper and draw attention to herself. Only dumb spies do stuff like that. |
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Philip McCrevice
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Nothing.
Leaking her name was like leaking the name of night shift janitor at the CIA building. |
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Snoochies
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interesting read on wikipedia about her. |
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MikeGolf
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Valire Plame was a socialite whose political connections allowed her to play spy.
Considering that she herself told all of her friends about it - she was not really 'covert.' |
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Akkita
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Depends on who you listen to and how much research you are willing to do.................
Questions--
1)Had you heard that Plame's cover has actually been blown for a decade — i.e., since about seven years before Novak ever wrote a syllable about her?
2)Have you heard that the CIA is actually the source responsible for exposing Plame's covert status?
Answers--
1) It appears Plame was first outed to the general public as a result of a consciously loaded and slyly hypothetical piece by the journalist David Corn. Corn's source appears to have been none other than Plame's own husband, former ambassador and current Democratic-party operative Joseph Wilson — that same pillar of national security rectitude whose notion of discretion, upon being dispatched by the CIA for a sensitive mission to Niger, was to write a highly public op-ed about his trip in the New York Times.
2)As the media alleged (in Footnote 7, page 8, of their brief), Plame's identity as an undercover CIA officer was first disclosed to Russia in the mid-1990s by a spy in Moscow. Of course, the press and its attorneys were smart enough not to argue that such a disclosure would trigger the defense prescribed in Section 422 because it was evidently made by a foreign-intelligence operative, not by a U.S. agency as the statute literally requires.
3)The press informed that the CIA itself "inadvertently" compromised Plame by not taking appropriate measures to safeguard classified documents that the Agency routed to the Swiss embassy in Havana. |
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jnwmom
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At the time her name was leaked..,she was no longer a covert agent..,she was no longer performing undercover duties.Her husband was the one that told Armitage who was the leaker..,not Scooter libby,not Karl Rove,and the thing that ticks me off..,is Fitzgerald knew this yet he is still proceding with investigation wasting tax payers money..,guess he wants to be like NiFong and make a name for himself..,he will...,end up just like Nifong if he doesnt cool his gun ho jets. |
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Tropical Weasel
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Nothing. She worked in the office and took the public bus to work everyday. This is a farce. Its a non-event. |
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marksatguy
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isn't lying under oath what the repubs tried to impeach Clinton for? |
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hawndawg
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What she did is secret and it exposed many of her contacts to danger to leak her identity to the world. People may die. Our security is compromised each time the enemy learns who are agents and who are not. Loose lips sink ships. |
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eddood52
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It shouldn't be a big deal since she was not a covert operative at the time the suppposed leak was made. She was only working in administrative capacities at the time |
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U.S.Veteran
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Leaking her name and exposing her identity is a felony that the president said he wants to get to the bottom of and fire and prosecute all those involved.
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♥ Cassie ♥
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Leaking her name put her and many other CIA agents lives at risk because they pay their agents through false businesses to keep their cover and all those agents that were being paid through the same business as her are in danger of having their cover blown. |
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Butterbar Bob
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Because the Democrats will use anything, even outrageous lies and smears if necessary, to attack Bush.
But the fact is that "covert" operative Plame had been riding a desk in the US since Aldrich Ames had blown her cover to the Russians during the Clinton Administration. That's why it really wasn't that big of a deal - it had already been blown. |
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rukidding
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Exactly! She WASN'T undercover like a spy! She was a glorified secretary! But she and her husband are big time liberals and haters of the President and, like so many of their kind (Dan Rather comes to mind.), they want to bring him down whatever it takes. |
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kveryeffective
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She was desk jockey in D.C.
The liberals are all up in arms about it because they are using it to bash Bush.
Now when a liberal paper like the NY Times was to leak a national secrets it is consider "Free Press" because it made Bush look bad.
You won't hear any liberal congressman to demand an investigation to those leaks with the same passion as this one.
It is all about making Bush look bad. |
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trichbopper
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Let me ask you a question. If you worked for the CIA undercover and YOUR OWN government leaked your name how would you feel. Number one it is a federal offense. Number two imagine that her life or her contacts lives depended on her secrecy.
So the Bush administration leaks her name in order to discredit her husband because her husband is telling the truth about the fact that Iraq is NOT trying to buy yellowcake.
You don't see any issue with this. I guess we should just declare Bush emperor. |
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williejuly1
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For one thing it is against the law. Secondly it compromised her husband and her safety. They used to call it treason. If it happened during World War Two someone would be on death row. |
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Jesi
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She as an undercover agent int he past. Her most recent assignment when her name was "disclosed" was a headquarters position. She was no longer in the field.
She was known throughout Washington as a CIA agent as she and her husband were regulars on the party circuit. When Armitage was talking about Wilson's wife the CIA agent sending him to check the rumors of nuclear weapons, everyone knew he meant Valerie Plame.
The reason the case against everyone for disclosing the name of a CIA agent was dropped in every case was the fact it was common knowledge throught the DC circuit.
Scotter Libby is not on trial for disclosing Plame's name, he is on trial for perjury and obstruction of justice. He may have thought he was covering for people but in fact the facts are no one exposed her except she and her husband. |
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Lou
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She was an under cover operative. As far as the world was concerned she worked for a made up Company. No one knew she worked for the CIA until Bush, Cheney leaked the information thereby destroying her cover. |
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diogenese_97
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The revealing of her name was treason! She was in charge of a phony corporation that was investigating Iran's nuclear situation. The only reason no one has been charged with treason was because everyone was lying through their teeth. This Libby trial may bring the truth to light. Cheney should be sweating it along with the reporter that printed her name and the name of the corporation. |
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Chuckles D
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There is no big deal. The liberals are attacing Bush by proxy because they don't have the cause or the BALZ to do it directly! |
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dapixelator
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She was supposedly an undercover operative who also ran other "spooks". Exposing her, exposed not only her, but potentially her operations and contacts.
At minimum they were irresponsible and incompetent (notice a trend with these guys?). They could have checked around before leaking the name to a reporter (one their shils-- Bob Novak) At worst, they commited a crime. Exposing the name of CIA operative is a crime. And Bush specifically stated that he would "punish" whoever leaked the name. Nothing has been done. |
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