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What do you think about this if it was a law?

Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I Do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't
one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone
sitting on their bottoms, doing drugs, while I work. . . . Can you
imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check ?
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TJ
Well looking at your profile, yours was long and boring also. And your welcome!


    




open thoughts
I have said for a long time that welfare should require random drug screening. I also add that if someone fails, they would be provided access to drug therapy...ONCE.

Edit...to those who oppose:
1. The cost would not be huge. You do not have to screen often, and day 1 you would have a large number of people drop off welfare for fear of getting caught.
2. Drug tests have become very inexpensive. I pay $30 to have each of my employees screened, and that includes the administration.
3. Those who think you can beat it, think again. You can beat a drug screen if you know it is coming, but you cannot beat it if you come in and they say here is a cup...no warning.
4. As for the children...if the parents are on drugs and unable to provide for their children because they are spending their money on drugs, their children should be taken away. As for the "Foster Care system is overloaded" argument...it is obvious that you are not informed. There are more foster parents than kids. I know 3 foster parents who want more kids and there are not any available.
5. "Unemployed stoners would cost us too much" If they are on welfare, they are costing us too much now.
6. bigA...you really need to stay off the drugs. You cannot even complete a thought.
7. The right to privacy argument breaks down. They are not REQUIRED to take the piss test unless they want the free money. It is just like employment screenings. You do not have to take the test...unless you want the job. If someone (or in this case the government...ie the people) are giving you money, they have the right to set conditions...they set conditions now. By the privacy argument, they would not be able to ask what you earn...invasion of your privacy.
8. ACLU...Let's skip the very thought that the organization should be banned for supporting illegal activity (NAMBLA) and shunned by thinking Americans for trampling on the rights of Americans...but they do not have a leg to stand on because of the answer in number 7.


DeeDee
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I like that idea. I know lots of people who get gov. assistance, that couldn't pass any kind of test (including some of my relatives).


tickled blue
good question, and I think it would be highly beneficial for the government to look into it. Though it may be costly at the onset, I think it could be very helpful--if done correctly--in servicing those in need, while eliminating those who are addicted to drugs.


kingbrianyouth12
Give it time theyll make it a law


Mel
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Sounds good to me. I am 67 and do not want to help support some dope head. I think it should be a law if you don't pass the drug test you lose your citizen ship and have to pass three random tests before you get it back. I believe if there is an able bodied male in the house no welfare be given. There are too many jobs today. For god sake pick up cans of nothing else.


Surveyor
A simpler solution would be to abolish the welfare program completely. It has been reversing evolution for too long already. Welfare makes it possible for the weak and worthless to procreate. It rewards those who have children that they cannot afford. These indigent moochers are multiplying like rats while intelligent working people are struggling to feed one child per family. Sorry to go on a rant, but this has always rubbed me the wrong way.


jd4640
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I think that is a very good idea. You should run for office.


raroo99
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i hate to say it but i agree!!! as much as i cant stand gov interferance it makes sense for the BIG PICTURE


odysseus1959
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SSD and SSI check also.

Child support mothers should be on the list also.


Ûž Vixen Ûž
I've seen this before... but I completely agree wholeheartedly. I think that anyone on Welfare should have to pass drug screening... I don't want to be paying for their habit (and for those of you that argue you can't buy drugs with food stamps... they can and do!).


King$mity
yep you are right--be my beef for many years-and i think all Politician's ALL politician's should takes test also


♫ kc70 ♫
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I've seen this in a e-mail, and yes, I do agree that people on assistance should have to pass the same drug testing that people have to pass in order to work. If people aren't doing things they shouldn't be doing, then they should have no problem passing the test.


El Piripiripau
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I love this idea except it would effect the children and dependants of the drug user.

Good thinking.


remowlms
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You make a good point and I like your idea.


Aloha Dre
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I love that thought! Good one, star :)


Freethinker
My feeling is that if you're on welfare, you need to pass a urine test. Want the free money? Then do this simple thing to assure me that you deserve it. It's my nickel, and I want to know how you spend it.


sexy infidel
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You should listen to Michael Savage on WIND AM 560 weekedays from 5pm to 8pm. Your kinda guy.


Ashley D
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I think it's a really good idea actually. Get some lobbyists involved and let's get this thing going!


Thomas SR
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Wow! I never thought of it like that before. I too work for a large company at which I am subject to random drug-testing, and as long as I don't do any drugs, I'm welcome to continue earning paychecks from them You're absolutely right, why shouldn't the people that receive government assistance be required to submit to drug-testing also? I think they SHOULD have to prove that they're not squandering OUR hard-earned dollars on drugs. But, I can tell you right now, the liberal Democrats would scream bloody murder, as would the ACLU. Now, I in no way meant to disparage any Democrats, but even they must agree with my opinion that their party would fight tooth and nail against any legislation forcing government-aid recipients to submit to mandatory drug screenings. Simple fact.


Lisa
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I pee, therefore I am!


"E"
yes i totally agree with you... can you only imagine how much money a city like dallas or new york would save on welfare?

i do have to agree with another person though about the children. i think that if they have children they should bypass the drug test. i think drug testing should be only for those who have adult children, or no children at all. which would still save us all an astronaumical amount of money. hell, maybe we could put a dent in the nation debt.

i really liked your point about you having to do one to makethem the money. i too think if i have to take one to make it, you should definitely have to take one to spend it!


Why ask me?
Good point lets start a petition.

PS You are gorgeous will you marry me?

PS again. The people who answer this question negatively are the ones who are getting a welfare/crazy check and are on the drugs lol!


Ivan C
The trickiest question here is the need factor involved in drug-use.


musicman47
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You are a smart woman, and I agree with what you just said! I jusr wish we had some COMMON SENSE in the goverment whether it be state or on the Federal level!


AshlandSoccer17
I will say the whole wellfare system needs to be reformed. That being said, it would cost a lot of money to hire the people necessary in every state to administer drug checks, check for fraud, etc.


Sugar
I got this in an email a while back, I agree with it... of course!


missy b
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There would probably be no more wel-fare......I totally agree with you.....


Definitely me
Sounds good to me.


howtoknowthetruth
That seems like a good idea. The only problem is that some drugs don't show up on the test, such as meth-amphetimines after a few days. Also I don't like any new legistlation generally, because there always is spending to go along with it. If they passed a law that says all lightbulbs that screw in should be "righty tighty", it probably would cost millions, even if all lightbulbs are that type already.
Also I do mind that I pay taxes, but I don't have any hand in deciding where my money goes. Why not just let people keep thier money that they earned? That money goes to families too.





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