Why is abortion deemed...?

Sway_27

Just another double standard, the pro-abortionists will say because it "was her choice" for the abortion, but the baby is still dead.

Rebecca

I guess the better question is, why is it a baby if you want it and a mass of cells if you dont?

Christopher T

When doctors perform abortions, they are acting on the will of the woman having the operation to remove the fetus. If someone attacks a pregnant woman and kills her fetus, then it is done against her will.

Think of it like someone getting elective surgery as opposed to violently attacking you and removing a part of you in the process.

Biologically, a fetus is an extension of the womb of the woman, and therefore still part of her body until it is being delivered. People will argue argue when it is supposed to be considered it's own separate entity, but technically the fetus cannot survive without the mother until the last trimester, and even then faces extreme health risks in the process. Therefore, medically the fetus is dependent on the mother until the time when it can survive on it's own. The debate rages on whether or not something that requires someone else to live has rights to demand the other entity to give up it's rights to it's own body once the former starts growing.

*In Addendum*

"So it appears from many of these answers that a mothers right to choose is more important than a baby's life."

I don't think that's really the case. I think it's more like it depends on what point the fetus is considered to have a life of it's own, as opposed to requiring the support of a mother to survive. If the baby -must- be attached to the mother, otherwise it will die regardless of technological support, it is part of the mother until that requirement has ended, and therefore any changes to it are changes to her.

The doctor in your case is performing an operation to protect the mother, who if going to him or her for the operation for the termination of the fetus would most likely have it performed someplace else, regardless of safety. At least with a doctor, a medically credentialed individual performs the operation, limiting the risk to the mother.

In the case of the violent act, it is not about choice or credentialing, it is a result of violence changing the woman who is carrying the fetus. Neither the life of the fetus nor that of the woman is controlled internally, it is an external decision. A doctor conversely is requested to perform the abortion by the woman.

So, technically it's the act of violence that causes it to be considered murder.

sally c

i dont know, maybe because it is the choice of the woman to abort her child, but not her choice if it is beaten out of her.

Sergio

In both cases, the 'fetus' IS a baby, regardless of size or ability to speak, etc. A seed growing is STILL alive, even if it isn't full size yet.

With the doctor, money and politics keeps the truth off his back. With the murder case, lack of money makes him guilty.

In both cases, a baby is being murdered but it is only politically correct to do so with the doctor because he has the backing and the ability to use technical words to lessen the effect of Reality.

Amber D

If a doctor does it, it's more than likely the choice of the mother. If it's due to violence it probably wasn't her idea..how obvious could that answer be?

yura

It is understood that woman went to doctor to have abortion so it was her intention and her decision. In the case when she was beaten by somebody and lost her baby she was most probably not in agreement with that act but she lost a baby as a consequence of a violent act.

britti

because laws are messed up sumtimes. ABORTION IS WRONG because it is murder!

Ashley Ward

It's never deemed okay if a doctor does it. All life is sacred from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death. Conception is the moment that the egg is fertilized. If you abort a baby, you are murdering that baby.

Captain S

It's actually not deemed legal murder if she loses her baby as a result of harm done to her in the commission of a crime, unless the mother herself loses her life.

cashmere3636

In my opinion, if a woman has an abortion she is making the choice to terminate the pregnancy unlike in a violent situation.

Yummy Cookies!

Because you are choosing to terminate the pregnancy if a doctor is doing it.

Why is it okay to have the death penalty but not killing innocent people?

Murder is murder to me.

ms.jackson...

because then it isn't an abortion. the women chose to give her baby life and you took that choice away from her. The abortion arguement is that it is the womens right to choose whether or not to give the baby that is living inside of her life or not.

Dirk D

The murder charge was intended to confuse things, and it seems you fell for it. In the Bible, killing a fetus in the course of an assault on a woman is an aggravating factor, not a murder.

The real question is then simply whether making abortion illegal reduces the number of abortions.

Careful research shows that criminalizing them does not reduce the number of abortions at all. They just become more dangerous to the mother. So outlawing abortion makes absolutely no sense. It is immoral to force it underground, as it achieves nothing positive but causes harm.

So how does one reduce the abortion rate? Well, we can learn from western Europe, which has the lowest abortion rate (as a region) in the world (half that of the US). The countries with the absolute lowest abortion rates are Belgium and the Netherlands (about a third of the US rate), both countries that allow abortion on demand. But they have universal healthcare, support children and mothers and have (almost) free education. In those countries, having a child is much, much easier than anywhere else. They even offer incentives (tax rebates, monthly stipends, etc.). And they have low poverty rates.

In summary: criminalising abortion is harmful to women and does not reduce the number of abortions, so it is immoral. To reduce abortions, we need to reduce poverty, make healthcare and education available to all and support mothers (stipends, childcare, catching deadbeat dads,...). Western Europe leads the way on the path to a more moral society.

EDIT: Adelaide, don't be silly. The angel said no such thing, or Mary wouldn't have understood him: she spoke no English. The Luther Bible (in German) simply says: you will be pregnant (Luke 1:31), as does the Bible du Semeur (in French) and Het Boek (in Dutch). You're drawing conclusions from a fanciful translation. God knows what actually was said. Read Leviticus and you will find that a child of less than one month old is deemed worthless (if killed, no fine needs to be paid). For once the Bible is very clear...

art v

You don't see the difference? WOW!!

So the doctor who is given consent, and the scum bag who assaults the woman and violently uses the womans stomach as a punching bag are equals?!?!

Madeline B

no it is not ok if a docter does it it is still murder if u were a baby and u got aborted would u be happy

Adelaide B

Both are murder because the baby is a person the moment it is conceived.
When the angel told Mary about being pregnant he didn't say "Rejoice for you are with fetus!" no the angel said "Rejoice for you are with child!" so the moment a baby is brought into this world after conception takes place it is a baby
It also states in the bible that those who kill the little ones for profit will suffer tremendously for it and I do believe those are the doctors who perform the abortions.
I just wish people knew exactly how an abortion is performed and how painful it is for the unborn child then maybe they would think twice before being pro-death.

elysialaw

Because, all moral arguments aside, the law has deemed abortion to be a legal practice, while assault or taking another's life is not.

The reason the assaulter cannot be charged with "denying the woman personal choice" is, again, that the law does not have a provision for same.

Also, cases where murderers or assaulters who are charged with the death of an unborn baby only happen to my knowledge when in the last trimester, where SCIENCE and the LAW both agree that it is indeed a human being. By the same token, a woman who purposefully aborted a child in her last trimester, could be charged with the murder of her unborn child.

Edit: Umm...I answered this question in a legal sense and spoke nothing of my own moral opinion on abortion...so I don't understand the thumbs down, as my answer is completely correct.

If you don't like the legal answer, don't ask and answer these questions in the law category!

braz50

Beating someone to a miscarriage is not performing an abortion.

Safe, legal and rare -- to avoid the back alley, the coat hanger, and guys like you calling the shots on what somebody in a real tough situation can do.

d h

Because if the doctor did it, the abortion was done by her personal choice.
A violent act takes the decision out of her hands.

LittleBarb

A DOCTOR is the only person certified in the USA to be legally able to PERFORM ABORTIONS..... abortions are legal in this country because of a court case called Roe V. Wade.. (google it).... prior to that, abortions were done ILLEGALLY by UNCERTIFIED PEOPLE using things like coat hangers and UNSTERILE conditions and many deaths occured to the WOMEN having these abortions.... when Doctors were LEGALLY able to perform abortions, fewer women were put at risk BECAUSE doctors use sterile conditions and the best modern sterile equipment.... MANY people in this country are TOTALLY OPPOSED to abortions of any kind... the MAJORITY however feel that it should be a WOMAN's CHOICE...... and with any luck at all, that will REMAIN the case forever.....you MAY or may NOT feel that abortion is right for YOU, but that doesn't give you the right to DICTATE whether it is right or wrong for EVERYONE... it should be left to the individual woman in this situation..... CERTAIN people tend to think of abortion as murder....the majority do NOT.... (truth based on the fact that ALL cases brought to court have PASSED in favor of NOT overturning Roe v. Wade)....if the RIGHT TO CHOSE is ever taken away again...... this country will be doing a GREAT disservice to the American women of the future..... I may not think abortion is right for ME, but I DESERVE THE RIGHT to chose one way or the other....

marisanj

If a doctor does it, it's because that is what the woman chose... if you beat the crap out of her and she loses the baby that's another story.

Dillicious

I dont think anyone thinks its "ok" when a doctor gives someone an abortion, besides its not the doctors choice.

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