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I worked in a hospital in Texas but was fired yesterday for what my supervisor called insubordination. To make this as short as possible a patient over heard me complaining about working every weekend to another co-worker. The patient then went to administration and told them that I was complaining about working for this hospital. I was called down to HR and was met there by my supervisor and an HR rep. I was not given a chance to say anything and was told I was instantly fired for insubordination. The co-worker I was speaking to at the time wasn't even called in for her account of what was said in front of this patient. I'll also add that I have never been written up at any job including this one let alone fired. I guess what I want to know is how this can be called insubordination and just because a patient was having a bad day I now have no job. What do yall think of this?


    




Dr. Deth
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insubordination is negatively interacting with a supervisor - if you're just talking and never refused to do something for a supervisor, then I'd say it was NOT Insubordination - tell all this to the unemployment office. You should be careful of excessive complaining on the job. If you were complaining every week, why weren't you looking for another job? and if there were no other places to look, then you have to deal with it, like everyone else in the world


Rhymes with Orange
If you feel you were unfairly terminated get a lawyer. Write down everything NOW while you remember it: names, dates, exactly what what said by whom and when. Get affidavits from your co-working about what was said. Get all your employment documents showing positive reviews of your performance (if you have them). Generally, you can be fired for insubordination without warning, but there must be proof. It's likely that if your lawyer approaches your former employer with the facts of the case they may be willing to reinstate you. However it may end up going to court. Be prepared to fight.


Kimberly R
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I don't know about the legal side etc. But I will say this. As a consumer, absolutely one of my pet peeves is being at any kind of business and having to listen to the employees complain to each other about anything. Employees need to be mindful about not engaging in personal gossip (especially complaints against the company) in front of customers, patients, etc.


Indy500
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The patient needs to see a vet, not a doctor...she is a complete COW.


scottsmylie
Texas is an employment at will state. It sounds to me like they were looking for any reason to get rid of you.


Ree
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I was fired for something similar and was told there was nothing I could do. I live in Indiana and it is what is called an "employment at will" state. That means that either party can terminate the relationship at any time, without a legit reason. You can go file unemployment and they will not have a leg to stand on. Unfortunately, you will still have a gap of time on your resume with no explanation, but you can get unemployment benefits as long as you're honest with them about being fired and not being warned... I know how you feel. At least you have learned from this experience.


♥uuÉuuÇɾ♥
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I do think it's a little extreme on the part of the hospital. But it also goes to show you never know who's listening to your conversations, so if nothing else, you've learned a pretty valuable (and costly) lesson!


fourbytwo
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Employment law in the USA may differ to the UK but I suggest you look at your contract. If your account of events is accurate you may have grounds for unfair dismissal especially if your colleage is willing to supprt your version of events. Look out for information regarding disciplinary action i.e should your employers have given you a written warning before they were entitled to fire you? You probably wouldn't want your job back but must consider that future employers might want a reference from the hospital and it sounds as though you wouldn't get one. Fight for your rights!


tracyw
dont know what the law is in texas but here in uk theres 3 warnings u should get before dismissal..verbal, written then final warning then fired unless its gross misconduct ie caught stealing etc then u can get fired on the spot...its the law if they dont adhere to it they can end up in court being fired person compensation so maybe its work talking to lawyer about your rights and see what if they can help


Shambles
How is complaining about working weekends insubordination? If you were told or asked to do something and didn't or refused to then I can understand why you were sacked. I'd check to see if this comes under unfair dismissal.


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Jay
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Not sure on the legal side of things but in general don't you think it was a bit silly talking about such things out loud.

A few years ago a fellow colleague was out having a few beers in a bar with his mates and complained about the school we were both working in at the time. The head found out and issued him a warning on the same grounds.

The lesson should be leraned, careful what you say, where you say it, and who you say it too.

It seems harsh to be fired without warning so maybe consult a lawyer.


joveesasha
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Wrongful doing...complaint load...to the administration of the hospital.





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