Would we be horrible friends if we did this?
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Would we be horrible friends if we did this?
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I know this isn’t a m/d question but I’m asking here anyway =)
My fiance and I have a trip planned to NY with another couple. We started planning in January. For whatever reason, right after that the couple started having problems. They started breaking up and getting back together. The first time they broke up and then got back together, they called me to ask if we could move the dates of the trip which made me lose the awesome deal and take a $60 cancellation fee hit per person (they paid…no biggie).
Since then, they have broken up at least 12 times. Yesterday she called me around 8PM to say to cancel the tickets. I didn’t. Then at 11PM she says, don’t cancel yet and 5 minutes ago she said they’re back together.
I’m really annoyed with the whole thing mainly because I’m still doing searches for hotel and every time I find a good deal, I don’t book because I’m still not confident they’ll go. The trip is also kind of losing its excitement because we have to deal with this almost twice a week. So my question is this: would my fiance and I be horrible friends if we tell them that we decided to cancel the trip all together, give them their money back, take a loss on the airfare, but still go ourselves without them knowing? We would get a voucher for their tickets to use at a later date (up to a year from when we cancel). Any other suggestions? Additional Details BTW, I’m doing all of the booking because I travel a lot with my company so I have elite status with a lot of airlines/hotels. It helps in getting better deals…not all the time but sometime.
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Elsie
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I don't think you should do anything behind their backs. They obviously know how many times they've "canceled" and "rescheduled" on you, so they should understand your concern.
I would tell them that their relationship is so volatile right now that you don't feel comfortable planning a trip with them. Ask them if they would mind if you just planned the trip by yourselves, and if they have worked things out within a month of the trip, and you can still get flights and hotel, they are welcome to come. |
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Go Bears!
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I wouldn't lie to them - Just tell them that since their relationship has been rocky for a while and they keep changing their minds, you are going to refund their stuff and go on your own. You can tell them your plans and tell them that they can make their own arrangements if they would like to join you, but you are no longer interested in helping them book. |
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Alison S
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I'd just tell them straight up that you guys are going and can't keep hearing different plans from them. Tell them they have to make a final decision and if they say they will go and then end up not going, that they have to pay for it. |
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Sarge1572
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here's what I'd do.
Get the vouchers for their tickets and give them to whichever one of them is stable. Tell him/her that every time a change is made it's times 4 and it's difficult to do with everything else you have to do, plus they all loose out on specials that are available now, but may not be if the dates have to change.
cancel any accommodations for them that are booked under your name or CC and book your trip. Tell them your flights, dates, hotel, shows, everything you book and say that you're very excited about going, and hope they will be coming with you.
Reiterate that you will keep them abreast of any changes you make because you want to go with them, then give them whatever they've paid for that's in there name. Then have some wine. |
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Cat D
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I think you are being responsible in light of their irresponsibility to cancel and go yourselves. Do not ever let anyone elses drama ruin your happiness. Life is too short to deal with that much childishness. |
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littleluvkitty
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no you should just tell them that you guys are going to go on this date and thats final. if they want to go then thats fine but you are not going to cancel anymore bookings. you have to be firm. good luck. |
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DarkAgent
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The answer is a simple one. Tell them to plan thier own half of the trip. Give them thier money back, say you cancled and go on your own. You could also give them the money back, tell them to plan thier end of the trip. Plan to meet up when your thier. If they dont go, oh well... atleast your still going. |
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karkee07
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Go with out them. Book for just the two of you. Explane that you'd love them to be there, but you and your boyfriend are still going and keeping your plans. Book your hotel and airfare, you can always book for them at another time. They'll lose their deals becuase they are putzing around, but if they want to go they will. I know you'll feel bad, but you'll regret not taking the trip becuase of them. If they work out their problems then they'll go. But dont let tehm hold you back from taking a nice vacation. |
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Toadstool
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Its not being horrible friends at all, theyre being annoying by breaking up and getting back together so much! I'm surprised you didn't cancel the trip by now after all that they have put you through, I think you need to actually talk to the other couple and explain that its frustrating and that you want to all go together but you just can't book anything since their relationship is so on and off. So dont tell them in a mean way or anything but just tell them that you can't book anything confidently since they're unstable like that and don't want to lose your money or anything. either you can do that or make up a little white lie that something major has come up and you can't go, and "cancel" the tickets, get the voucher as you thought to do, and then just go later on sometime, the other couple will hopefully understand, hopefully it works, but its either the truth, or a white lie, in my opinion, neither will make you two horrible friends. Youve put up with enough already, that shows you're dedicated friends. |
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J C
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No I think you and your fiance should go. Why ruin the trip you two had just because your friends all of a sudden can't figure out if they are a couple or not.
Have fun in N.Y.
P.S. I don't need best answer, in fact I'm collecting thumbs down. But if you could see to it that some of that "elite" status comes over my way. I'd surely appreciate it. |
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lonelyfatass15
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Leave them behind, go and enjoy your trip. |
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Mrs. Goddess
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When I started reading this, my first thought was, "Why doesn't she cancel the friends & explain Oops too late, and go on the trip with the fiancee".
They are the ones being completely selfish & terrible friends - not you. If this is the same couple where you had asked the question about the strip clubs - this just nails it that they need to grow up and wouldn't be good travel companions.
Why shouldn't you have a nice vacation? Like you said, you work hard. |
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.::rainbow armadillo::.
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Do not go anywhere with these people, they will ruin your trip with their drama...yes, cancel on them! You are not obligated to put up with this nonsense!!! |
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MamaX2
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just go with out them... |
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CindyLu
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Time to break this up and let her make her own arrangements. You should go ahead with your plans as if they were not coming. let her know what you have arranged and that is it. If she wants to cancel she can call and do that and then make the arrangements again when she changes her mind. You and your fiance do not really need to be around such volitile and down right flaky people. |
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Smalls
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I don't think you'd be bad people. What they don't know won't hurt them.
This is exactly why I like to go on vacation with only my husband. |
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sharon ON
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Do yourself a favour and be honest with your friend. Tell her that you and your fiance have decided the drama they would create wouldn't make for much of a vacation. In my opinion it would be so unpleasant and stressful that there's no way either of you would have a good time. Tell them you've decided to go away on your own and you can lie about this but tell them you've already booked elsewhere - then do it. Seriously - WHY would you want to spend time with feuding friends? That's gotta be the last thing I'd want to spend money on! And if you're asking about who would be the horrible friend - I'd vote for it being THEM for putting you on the spot like this in the first place! |
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Beetle
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I think you would have a better time if you did tell let this other warring couple that the trip is off and give them back the money they have contributed LESS any cancellation fees.
You and your fiance don't need their instability. Let them work it out and you just go and have a great time. Life's too short to spend it with folks that are unhappy. |
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buu
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honestly you've already been great friends. not only have you invited them to go on vacation with you but you have put up with them hindering your fun time for longer than most people could endure. I think you should take your vacation but not hide it from them. Instead tell them nicely that your making this trip alone with your fiance and maybe when they have worked out the kinks in their relationship they're might be another chance for a couples vacation. Besides it would be miserable for them to go and wind up fighting while your trying to have a peaceful vacation with your loved one |
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Abel
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Hmm sound like the typical 'normal' couple between the odd feuding next door neighbor couple.
In my opinion, when it comes to friends, honesty is always the best thing because even though they may be bothered, if they find out you lied and left without them, it will hurt them and makes you see unsupportive, even though obviously you would not mean to be, but it usually is the scenario that always happens.
Just talk with them and tell them that making travel plans when so much drama going on is bad and that she as your friend should be aware of your conditions and not put so much pressure on you. Wait for the storm to clear and when all is good then plan. Either way I am sure they by now must be aware of all the problems, so you telling them is no hard schocking. |
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jennifer
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i would say go with your plan, but thats super harsh. but i know that if you guys go all together, they might start fighting and ruin you guys having a good time. then again it might be fun, i would say just take them. it will be worse because they probably will be fighting but still take them. you offered. and it would be mean to do that. who knows you might actually have fun. |
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daeraelle
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Why would you want to take a trip as a couple with another couple that could be broken up by the time they step off the plane? Then while they're fighting one of them is going to end up sleeping in your room with you guys while they can't stand the sight of each other.
I think taking this trip with them is only going to stress you out even more and it could permanently damage the friendship. No one goes on vacation to be stressed, irritated, and to constantly worry about the stability of their friends relationships.
Just let your friend know that you will not change the plans again and she needs to decide if she wants to go or not. If either one calls again about cancelling the tickets, just do it. If they call back and say "No, wait..." Just politely tell them that you cancelled the tickets and there are no more left on that flight now. Tell them it's tiring and stressing you out to be changing plans twice a day and that you and your mate are going to take the trip as it was planned without changing anything again. If they want to go, they can plan their own trip. Try to explain you want to take a trip to be relaxed and there is no way you can enjoy yourself while you're there if you are constantly getting worked up about changing plans and cancelling and uncancelling everything up until the day before the trip.
Tell your friend that going on vacation is not going to fix their relationship, it's just going to make EVERYONE in the vicinity angry and irritated while they fight about having no choice but to be stuck with each other until the end of the vacation.
Or you could just say "This is too stressful for me. I don't want to go through this much trouble just to go on a tiny little vacation. You two can go and have fun, but I think we're going to sit this one out." Then you can just go somewhere else. |
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Sean G
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Cancel the trip altogether. Don't go with your fiancee without them. Your thier friends if you tell them you canceled it then go without telling them they will hold that against you. And don't think they won't find out cause they will, they are your friends right? You say it's cancel then are gone for that same week? Hmm. Unless your friends are some dumb f*cks they will know you just dropped them to go alone. I suggest you talk with them about this, or cancel the trip and go somewhere else say you changed your mind of where to go and they have been on and off so much. |
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becstar
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I would book two places, and tell them that you'll return their money, minus any costs you incurred through them messing you around - you're not a bank.
Tell your friend you'd love to go away with them another time, once they get themselves sorted, but that obviously she must understand you can't keep messing your plans up for them, especially when you keep losing money. |
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apples
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go without them... tell them whatever you want but save yourself their drama |
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Lego Indy
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Do it. |
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Laughteraddict
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Absoultoulty go without them, they could ruin your trip. |
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pennyspetpantry
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Have a back up couple planned. There's no reason for you to lose out on your trip. If you don't want to ask another couple, then just tell them you can't deal with the constant rescheduling of things. See where they stand when you tell them. |
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Hank the wayward Christmas tree
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Well, they might get their feelings hurt if they ever found out that you and your fiance went without them, but they are being ridiculous. Go ahead and go by yourselves. Something tells me that those two are going to break up for good soon. Once people start breaking up and getting back together, you know it'll never work out. |
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tocool06
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ahhhhh i hate when ppl can't make up there mind if i were you i would do wat you said cuz if they go there probley gunna ruin your trip anyways with them fighting so just forget ab0ut them or you can tell her i booked the fight and hotel here's the cost if you go or not |
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JM
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i don't blame you. i wouldn't go with them either. it won't be a fun trip if they're fighting all the time. i would tell them you're canceling it! best wishes |
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