Brain-washed by Army???

madjennyvane

Well, considering that I have dated pretty much every branch of the military (currently a Marine) I would have to say that having an EGO goes with the job. Being brain-washed is just something civilians say about people who are taught how to kill for a living. The military ain't kindergarten. They don't pick flowers all day, they train train train train TRAIN!

And God Bless America for them!.. that whole "states" thing gave you away. :)

impalersca

If the Army wanted the Soldier to have a girlfriend, the Army would have issued one!

lordkelvin

It's not brain washing, it's a fact of life. In fact *any* field of public service, many times the job comes before family. If you can't deal with that don't get into a relationship with that person. To do otherwise would be doing a disservice to both parties.

Gianna M

He's not brain washed, just a true patriot. By him going off to training for 6 months, just proves his loyalty and dedication for his country. Soldiers truly make sacrafices, for their country, and being away from loved ones for long periods of time is just one sacrafice they make.
Just remember he is a Soldier 1st, then a boyfriend.

john r

What's wrong with that? Would you rather your boyfriend have no training and get killed first day?

THINK! DON'T BE SO SELFISH!

Larry R

The best thing you can do for him right now is to break up.

You simply do not have what it takes to be an Army wife.

People who join the Army MUST and DO put the Army before their job and their family. They do that so the rest of us don't have to. It is called patriotisim and self sacrifice. It is probably part of what attracted you to him in the first place. He's a stand up guy who can be depended upon and takes his duty seriously.

You seem to take America and all it is for granted. This apparently has not dawned on you yet, but NO COUNTRY is EVER guaranteed survival. If you don't believe me just try to call the East German Embassy.

If you can't understand this, your relationship has no future. Even during peacetime I've seen women marry career Soldiers and then say "OK, so when are you going to quit this silly Army thing and start selling insurance and paying more attention to me?" The were divorced six months later, and he stayed in the Army. During wartime the stresses are much worse.

I was mobilized for 2 1/2 years, missed the birth of my daughter, and my wife never complained once. Her brother is in the Army and she knows what it takes and has what it takes. When I de-mobed the General gave her a thank you note for all the sacrifices she made for me and for the Army. From what you've said here ,you don't measure up to that, and you simply don't have what it takes to be an Army wife, and he deserves better. The last thing any soldier needs is a whiny spouce at home making life harder than it allready is. For God's sake don't do that to him.

earl

you better start learning fast about being with a military man.
it's not all about you and if you think it is "beat it"!

Sassy

And your point is?

There are things worth giving allegiance to. Is that difficult for you to imagine, or is it just because you have to be put out for a few months?

oldsalt6585

So, you would prefer our military men/women be given equipment/jobs without proper training? Old shipmate of mine spent a over a YEAR being trained as an Electronics Technician, Nuclear. Next was prototype school (learning how to work on nuke reactors). THEN he had to go sub school. You whiny, self centered women really tick me off. Your man makes a decision to be part of the best military force in the world you piss and moan when they have to go off to be TRAINED to do a job. Get over it honey and grow up! You should be PROUD of him, instead you're only thinking of yourself. It's women like you who screw around on their military MAN while he's gone then try to justify it by saying, BUT IS WAS SO LONELY. Go get some 4-F civilian if you want him to scurry home every night and cater to your whims. Oh, this long training will probably set him up for a career when he gets out and takes along a STRONGER, MORE LOYAL wife than you.
(USN/retired with a wife who stood by her man all the way)

bert

Why don't you get a new boyfreind, one who isn't in the army

b123153h

You will not understand, you never been there, when you are in the service that is your job, he is willing to give his time and his life for his country and you. even if you leave him he will still defend your right to do what you want, that is a military mans job until he is done with the service, And even then the training he receives will stay with him for a lifetime, and if you stick with him you will find that it was worth the wait

Devil Dog '73

For a soldier, putting the 'needs of the family' ahead of the 'needs of the military' can actually be counterproductive. By following the legal orders that he/she receives, a soldier is fulfilling his duties, protecting his people (including his family), and maintaining a career that will generate income and benefits for the entire family.

It is not simply a job. If you quit your job without notice, it usually doesn't endanger anyone. I could quit my current job, and no one would be endangered. There's a difference, and if you plan to stay with him, you need to accept & understand that.

And a six month training program is nothing. My follow onschool training was 18 months. And he's going to be training sohe can do his mission without getting hurt, dead, or causing the same to another soldier. Don't begrudge him the time he has to invest for his training.

It's not brain-washing. He simply has a new set of priorites, and he understand the importance of completing his objectives. In other words, he's a man now.

Edit: And it may currently be $1500/month that anyone could do (not true, by the way, people wash-out of basic training EVERY DAY), but his training doesn't end when he graduates basic training. His training doesn't ever end, actually, so get used to it. And you say he's leaving behind a child. Are you saying he's abandoning the child, or simply that he is going to be away for a while? And unless he's in the reserves, you do know there is no guarantee of where his permanent duty station after training will be, right? It could be overseas.

And if he is a reservist (which I'm guessing from one of your edits), you do realize that he can be fully activated, at any time, even as soon as his training school is finished? And he'll be gone and won't be at that 'other job'. And don't think it can't happen; I just lost an employee that got called up from reserve status to active.

You need to get used to the new reality, and fast, or else you might be left behind as well. From your other questions (unless they're B.S.), you're only 17 years old. You shouldn't even be attached this closely to this guy right now. You're too young and inexperienced to know what you want. Stay in school, go to college, get a degree, and then see how you feel about him. From your other questions (assuming they're all the same boyfriend) you have way too much baggage, and he really doesn't need that when he's trying to concentrate on his mission. And by the way, nice job belittling him, saying that anyone could do his job. Nice way to support your man and instill him with confidence.
I predict that within six months, he's no longer involved with you. You aren't supporting him, he'll be out of state, and there is plenty of competition out there. If you want to keep your boyfriend, stop being a thorn in his side and support him.

James M

That is the soldiers creed. It is the basis for all we are as a soldier, it defines who and what we are, soldiers. We are still brothers, sisters, fathers, sons, wives and husbands, yet we are soldiers as well. We do this for our family and our friends. We do not get strong egos from training, we become more confident in ourselves and we put 100 percent in all we do. We are not brainwashed, just proud of what we do.

East Coaster

If you don't put the Army first then you had better let your command know. You may get lucky and only get a BCD.

Billy T

i was raised in a military family household. When one becomes a soldier they have to keep their mind on being a soldier and nothing else.When this young man is training to serve his country he will have nothing else to think about other than training and when he will be able to get some sleep from being worked so hard.When he is in training i can assure you he will be doing just that and nothing else.I know it will be hard on you but give him your support and be ready to let him go for about 18 weeks.It is going to be tough.Support him in every way and good luck to you.It will pay off
.

One thing that all must remember,that is the bottom line.It doesn't matter what his mos will be,In times of war you can be transfered to other mos's.Maybe from non combat to a combat mos,military occupational specialty.The bottom line is that you are willing to die for your country,cause.I think that the since of accomplishment you get from the training gives you the confidence or the ego.The brotherhood formed in training and in war probably takes over the family protection sense to some degree.After all you watch their back and they watch out for you.Self preservation usually out-wheighs species preservation.

tai D

There are different jobs in the army, and yeah, you have to train for em. Thems the breaks.

Eh?

Well that the very point of the military ever since it was ever created. Commitment and discipline.
Though during the Classical Age in the Mediterranean, a lot of the warfare there was nothing but marching in discipline. Nothing but standing in line and in formation to charge en mass. And it's scary stuff, you are on the first line ready to charge and the enemy has their spears ready. Every general would not want an indiscipline soldier that just runs from their lines, then everyone in the front line would join and go from their lines, then the next line would end up as the front line and see the enemy and leave also.
Heck, if you join the military, you know it's Service Before Self. If you don't want to leave your family and domestic life, the military isn't for you. You have to be committed to fight to your best and you have to expect that the prospect of giving your life in the process is possible. That's the military, if you don't have people dedicated to the military then you have no military.
Remember, there is no such thing as a democratic military, you don't get to chose, events and strategy chooses you.

Possible future 2nd Lt., USAF.

Secondly, I really don't like it when people say the military "brainwashes" you and everything. They just don't have the courage nor understanding of anything military. They are just afraid of something they don't understand and ultimately fear it by nature (or at least detest it). They don't understand that the military tradition has run through the course of human history, the military isn't something new, the equipment and strategies to change and update itself but I don't see why they just hate the military so much. They should study up on military science and history before they claim anything as brilliant enlightenment of something "evil".

usamedic420

Not exactly, The Army makes you the kind of commited man who believes in service before self, mission first, then save men and equipment. When he returns he will be respected and worth having.

Kyhm

First of all you need to understand this one simple basic point, when someone joins the military they do not have a choice. Again, they do not have a choice, if the military says go to iceland for 4 months to train, guess what you have to go. Would you feel better if he didnt train at all, stayed home wiht you in order to make you happy, then went to war and died because he had no idea of what he is doing? The money and benefits he and his child will recieve will out weigh the small amount of time he is gone. You need to realize that just because he does this it doesnt take anything away from you. I honestly belive you are being very very selfish, get over it and grow up!

Stan S

All he is doing is going to another place to get trained for his job. It should also be mentioned that he really doesn't have much choice in the matter.
Maybe you would be happy knowing that some jobs in the military require a school or a combination of schools that can last for over a year.

little mama

I feel bad for your boyfriend because I see a dear John letter in his future. It takes a certain kind of person to be a military spouse and from your question I don't think you're going to handle it well. You need to learn a couple of things. First and foremost is that training is what will keep your boyfriend alive. I'm sure you want that. A few lonely nights is nothing compared to him going to war untrained, getting killed and then you being without him forever. Also you have to realize that they do not get to decide when they come and go. There will be many nights where you are alone being the mom and the dad . There will be many holidays spent without your boyfriend and you'll have to celebrate later. There will be many nights you have plans and at the last minute they have to stay for another class or another range. This is just the way things are. Better learn to deal with it or do him a favor and leave him now rather than when he's in another country literally just trying to stay alive.

the d

Yes,

THey do some brainwashing, THey make you think that you are going to be a REAL MAN when they are done with you, By screaming and yelling, cursing at you.

it's definetely not for me

Roadrunner58-79

What is the question????????????//

johncondo2001

yes

dze

thats what a soldier is ... u follow orders and ur a killing machine ...

kritikos43

Yes! Training is very sophisticated brain washing they will say " Who Do You Love ?" reply "Sargent So and So". Been there done that, But at least for now there is no draft. Thank God !only those who Join are in.

ladyparadise777

That is what the Government does best sweety. It is against the law for civilians to brain wash. The government can do what ever it wants. ............Good Luck

Believe me

Unfortunately soldiers are brain-washed big time! They are trained to obey the commander in chief, which in this case the buffoon Bush/Cheny. They are nothing but trained to become a Robocop. Go rent that movie robobcop and you'll know exactly that's what soldiers are.

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