Can anyone give me the top 5 similarities between the Iraq & Vietnam wars?

damdawg

1.The liberals undermined the troops in the field in both wars.
2.The liberals blamed the administration (Johnson and Nixonâ€”Nixon ended the war).
3.The liberals were cowards and fled to Canada.
4.The liberals stayed home and smoked grass and thought isnâ€™t the world beautiful.
5.The liberals never got over itâ€”it became their perpetual mantra.

goliathntime

As a Viet Nam war veteran, I can give you one. American soldiers are dying while politicians are acting like idiots!!!

imnogeniusbutt

1. No exit strategy
2. We are fighting an insurgency (people that don't want us in their country). That means that to win, we have to convince them that they want us to stay. Not a likely outcome with gun barrel diplomacy.
3. We entered for dubious reasons:
-In Vietnam we had to stop Communism in S.E. Asia or we will fight it here.
-In Iraq we had to stop Sadaam before he attacked us or we have to stop terrorism in the Middle East or we will have to fight it here (or whatever the reason changes to in the future).
4. Our reason for staying is that we are there and it will be worse if we pull out. Many people no longer believe we can obtain our original objectives and many others no longer believe our original objectives were honest.
5. It is polarizing the political rhetoric in our country on other issues as well as itself.

guerillas in the mist

i can do better. i'll give you the one major difference.

no one is marching in the streets this time.

D@nny boy

It was the USA who came to help, but it didn't work, it took way longer than expected, commies, dictator and lots of other countries came to help as well.

super stud

Country backed by other countries with weapons and troops,no way to win,enemy is well hidden,Nothing but a way for the rich to get richer,We will pull out when it is not popular to get votes any more.

Dee M

1. Henry Kissinger advised Nixon in Vietnam and Bush in Iraq that the only solution is victory. The similarities of this logic when Bush explains his policy are eerie and frightening. I heard that, so long during Vietnam, and Kissinger is repeatedly going to the White House to advise Bush. WHY? His advice failed utterly the first time.

2. The number of U.S. soldiers killed rose to the point that to withdraw may give a great number of families of the soldiers the feeling that their daughters/sons/husbands/wives/fathers/mo... have died in vain.
No one is comfortable with that.

3. People argue over what patriotism is. During Vietnam people were lamblasted as not supporting the troops if they urged a pull out, and didn't raise the returning veterans as heros. Today, Bush leads the parade to say those not agreeing with everything he said, are not patriotic Americans, but "with the enemy". One flag behind him when he speaks is sufficient. Note how he literally covers the backdrop with them.

4. Innocent people of all ages, genders, and political persuasions are needlessly killed, tortured, imprisoned, separated from loved ones, are losing homes and homelands, forever imprinted with the horrors and random unfairness of brutal war. Both wars, -all wars.

5. America's name in the world grows in disrespect, then, and now, while an administration in denial (Nixon-Watergate, Bush-Republican moneylaundering & various scandals) risks all to save itself from embarrasingly admitting it was wrong, to the point of trying to wrap itself in power to perservere until somehow proven correct - though that remains an ever increasing impossibility - to the point that political crimes grow and are exposed as anything goes -for - We're at war --no holds barred. Congress then, and now, lacks the leadership to stand up for what is right, they fear being alone in the polls and possibly risking their Senate or House seat- that seems more perilous to them than actually turning the situation around for the better.

History repeats itself, that is why it is VITALLY IMPORTANT that our people in power should have avidly studied world history, American history, -- to know who we are, the wonderful constitution and bill of rights that are the heart and soul of America, how to uphold our standards, and how to avoid making the same mistakes that have already been made.

To err is human, to not learn from our errors is stupidity.

So many of us saw this coming, but again only the powerless have the nerve to speak truth without considering polls. Powerless are ignored. Just look at how we treat prisoners. A true sign of our morality. How much character does it take to kill or torture an unarmed prisoner? Vietnam had its Mei Lai (spelling?) massacre and Iraq has it horrific mistreatments as well.

Many, Many similarities. Wars are that way. Perhaps if Bush and Cheney had not run so hard from VietNam they wouldn't have been so eager to BEGIN another war. -- Remember, the country of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Nothing.

patois

1. The Bush family was behind some of each.
2. The peoples of both Iraq and Vietnam were sold out by their leaders and elites to foreign commercial interests prior to the plunder of each land.
3. U.S. soldiers in both wars have suffered from diseases caused by warfare chemicals.
4. The U.S. denies those U.S. soldiers from both wars adequate medical treatment.
5. They were both wars with brown people. The U.S. prefers to bomb brown people.

tom l

Only need one to understand the problem.
Our military is "reactive" instead of "proactive" in Iraq just as it was in Vietnam. Anytime a military just sits around waiting for the other guy to do something, the result will be the same.

OneUniverse

1. Fabricated/Unjustifed means used to engage "the enemy".
2. Very broad and no specific objective defined.
3. Mismanaged Military resources.
4. Serious under-estimation of "opponent", lack of planning.
5. Both "engagements" continued/are continuing despite being highly disapproved by the general public.

kysteelgirl

Corruption at the top
To many Americans dying
Unable to identify the enemy
Justified by lies to the American people
No means to a positive end

Charlie Bravo

guerrilla combat being fought by an organized militia...
incompetent decision making at the top levels of government (particulary in the executive office)
corporate intrusion and corruption in government rebuilding and program efforts
corporate intrusion and corruption in government military bid processes
a general dislike of our brave and courageous troops being in Iraq (by the local Iraqis and our own population here in the USA)
a lie (a few of them..actually) started this war in Iraq...
general arrogance and denial surrounding the progress of the war in Iraq...

I could go on and on....but it depresses me. Meanwhile our troops are undersupplied and understaffed.....and they are NOT getting the support (from the executive level) that they REALLY should (and no, a "pay raise" doesn't count, Mr President).

dual_reality

Democrats want to cut and run.
Democrats still assist the enemy.
Democrats still call our troops murderers.
Democrats ignore the good happening.
Democrats want to cut the defense budget and force a withdrawl.

Kiki

1. It is being fought in a terrain which is unfamiliar to most of our soldiers.
2. Our armed forces are mainly comprised of the poor, minorities, etc.
3. The majority of Americans feel mistakes have been made.
4. Those who do not agree with the reasoning behind the war are labeled unpatriotic, accused of not supporting the soldiers, etc.
5. Many are beginning to feel it is a war that cannot be won.

Manji

Simple :

1- Corruption and collusion from the higher ups and media control propaganda from the government (not like it's anything new.)

2- It's a war our military was never truly trained on how to fight, just like Vietnam. We're fighting in urban combat, with multiple different zones of attack, multiple hiding spots...and guerilla fighters hiding amongst common citizens = it means it a bleeding nightmare over there. Our men are taught to fight organized militarial forces, not guerilla troops. It's not different now than it was when the US English beat the UK English in the Revolutionary War.....simple guerilla tactics against a traditional and organized oppositional military force.

3- The people of this country have largely lost their heart for the war in Iraq, and faith in it's outcome has largely waned.....just like Vietnam. Only difference, the protesters don't have the guts to protest on the steps of Capitol Hill like they did in 'Nam.

4- Absolute blundering/strategic pandering by militarial leaders, and leaders in government on quite simply every aspect of this war. From losing the initial objectives (if they were ever truly the objectives in the first place) to blundering combat strategies, etc etc.

I know it's not 5, but those are the majority reasons/similarities I can think of.

Meow the cat

its a war

stupid people are whining about it

stupid people are holding rallies against it

liberals are spitting at our fighting men and women

DNC voters support the enemy

devora k

Stupid planning, stupid planning, stupid planning, stupid planning and don't forget stupid planning

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