Can we believe the Britons when they say their Royal Marines were in Iraqi waters?

Andrew S

yes. they have the gps coordinates. here's a better question: can we trust the iranians when they say the britons were in iranian waters?

Wolfpacker

You would rather believe the Iranians who overtook the US Embassy & tortured Americans in the 70's. Ask yourself why you believe the Iranians over the British. I believe the British - an honorable people with GPS to back them up. The Iran goverment changed their co-ordinates twice - the 1st set were in Iraqi waters, surprise surprise.

john h

Quite. The USA has sat. and gps data as well. Who would you believe first, someone in a leisure suit that advocates genocide or professional soldiers executing their duties with due military protocol. Regards

Politically Wrong

Yes....why not? GPS Proved it

SnowWebster2

I would believe the worst Bill Clinton of the Brits anyday before I believed the most truthful idiot in Iran.

oldsalt6585

All the evidence points to those men and woman being in IRAQI waters. Even the IRAQIS say so.

ShadowCat

After looking at some of the criticisms of the US, I'm beginning to think they were in Iranian territory. I was feeling empathetic, until I started reading some of the garbage they are saying about the United States! May the Wahabbist Muslims and Sharia Law stay among them! God Bless our Troops and America!

RO35

Whenever you get politicians or the military involved there will always be lies at times. I don't care what country it is.

h h

UK personnel involved were in IRAQI waters. This was confirmed by the US, the UK, and the Iranians who sent GPS grids from a captured GPS system verifying that the UK was infact in Iraqi waters. Their location within Iraqi waters was also confirmed by the Indian vessel the Brits had just searched. Yes GPS from the US, and UK could be viewed as questionable. However the Iranians sent the same GPS grids that the US and UK had as "proof" that the Britons were in Iranian waters, only the "proof" incriminated the Iranians. The Iranians then tried to say that the first set of coordinates was a mistake, and sent another set backing up their claims.

The Iranians pre-planned this. They attempted to abduct some US personnel earlier but the result was a firefight and they failed.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1605487,00.html

They then centered on British military personnel I guess who they view as weaker.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070331/ap_on_re_eu/british_seized_iran_226

I am sure the Iranians had been monitoring British naval activity in the area. I am sure that they had the ability to atleast guess how to put an operation in place to abduct personnel in such a manner. Had the British resisted them then they could have made similar claims about the British violating their territorial waters. Either way the situation would have worked in their favor. Now they have a bargaining chip against the West. Iran has shown in the past that they will take people hostage when they are in a politically weak situation.

This is nothing new for Iran.

rz1971

Why are you only questioning the British and the Royal Marines. So Iran and its government leaders only tell the truth or do they also lie. Me, I beleive that the UK sailors were not in Iranian waters but that Iran is using this to pressure the British government and its people around. Looks like its working.

c1523456

I do because the GPS prove it. You are one of those terrorist supporter?

Ray K

Yes, and it was confirmed by eye witnesses.

Limp Dick

Yes. Of course. Would you believe a wacko dictator? I wouldn't.

Kilroy

The problem is that they were in waters that have long been disputed by the Iranians and Iraqis. Both lay claim to this particular area so from the Iranian perspective, it was thiers, from the Britons (Iraqi as well) they were in coalition waters. Unfortunatly there are no physical borders at sea so its easy to have these kinds of altercations.

dze

they knew what they were doing ....

Rick V

GPS location can be subverted. Who knows what was going on.

taff3sghost

No.
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Dashin' IN

No, I don't think we can believe them. The Britons have a history of political deciet and murder by spies and such as SAS and MI-6. Why should we believe a people who have basically exterminated the natives in Ireland and Scotland?
Could William Wallace have believed King Edward?

Who else agrees that its just a lot of bickering. It's being used as an excuse on both sides to prove some dumb point. If we continue to pester them like a hive of bees things are only going to get worse. I say we just leave them alone and find something better to do.

robinhood

Absolutely not.

Saint Lucipher

No.

ToYou,Too!

Can you say "sacrificial lambs" in the King's English??

one voice

They were in Iranian waters, for the sixth time in less than two weeks. They were just bait and the Iranians finally bit.

Yeda Mel

hola!

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