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Did the Marines do this because of terrible stress?

Aws Fahmi, a Haditha resident who said he watched and listened from his home as Marines went from house to house killing members of three families, recalled hearing his neighbor across the street, Younis Salim Khafif, plead in English for his life and the lives of his family members. "I heard Younis speaking to the Americans, saying: 'I am a friend. I am good,' " Fahmi said. "But they killed him, and his wife and daughters."

The 24 Iraqi civilians killed on Nov. 19 included children and the women who were trying to shield them, witnesses told a Washington Post special correspondent in Haditha this week and U.S. investigators said in Washington. The girls killed inside Khafif's house were ages 14, 10, 5, 3 and 1, according to death certificates.


    




diogenese19348
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I have a really hard time believing marines would do such a thing. Kill civilians in a gun battle, yeah, that happens.

Go into a house and kill kids? Go F'ck yourself.

This post is horse sh!t.

Thanks for being an azz

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OK, here is your back up. You were right, pardon my earlier annoyance. This whole thing is getting uglier and uglier.


Made_in_America
Marines are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They no longer know who the enemy is due to being mislead and killed.


isabow27
Were you there? Do you have proof?

Why do you not defend the Marines and get to the truth of that situation instead of copycatting the media?


shocktrooper342003
Of course they're under stress, it's a war. Before you go off the deep end, understand those Marines have a job to do. They are looking for people who will kill them without hesitation. Those people come in all shapes and sizes, including women and children. Our Marines do not have the luxury of time to see who'se good and bad, and I don't think that heresay from a neighbor who supposedly heard the whole thing is evidence enough to convict those Marines.
Obviously, you've never been in a combat situation, where a split second is all you have to make a decision. Those Marines are doing this every damn day, and your going to sit there, all fat and happy, and judge them? Ever hear of two sides to every story? Guess not. Get a clue.


dalevzipprich
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When some one is shooting at you, and hiding behind wemon and children, a person still has a tendency to get pissed.

Maybe the wemon and children would not tell the Marines who was shooting at them.. Do not jump to the conclusion that this is an everyday happening.
How about if one of the wemon or, one of the children was the one doing the shooting ?? Shittttttttttt.


NutstersChick
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Make BUSH go 2 Iraq & C what he's done!


some polisci major
That's a good question

I believe it's a combination of stress and frustration. The frustration would come from being put in a situation (Iraq) with no real mission objectives with no end in sight.


The Boot
Obviously this question was written by a pacifist liberal who has never heard a shot fired in anger..probably named Chamberlain.


paul1953uk
They really are poor soldiers. Fire and ask questions later.

The worst part of it all is what do you do now. Do you withdraw the US troops and let a bloodbath prevail or do you keep an trying to act as peacemaker even though you are not very good at the job.

The solution is to replace Americans with other.


justworld
war is always a terrible stress but that can't be any excuse, for the marines it is just another gameboy fight against aliens...


secret
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you know nothing, nothing at all! You have no idea what those men and women go through all day and night do you think its a picnic or something?


$Þlî
war is not pretty.i know this first hand.well a buddy of mine just got back. well he is 21 and probably will never forget the day he had to shoot a 10 year old boy well the boy shot him in the back after refusing to shoot the armed boy mistake.the service tells you never take you enemy for granted.well he was injured he turned around blew the 10 year old brains out ya see countrys have for years been putting children out there with guns.to fight thier wars.so if you werent there dont judge.media is half the problem when it comes to truth the other is ppl like your self who will believe anything.wanna buy some beahfront propertie in iowa? dont belive what you hear unless you see it yourself.thank you


Reclaimer
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No one knows why(if they did it that is). If they did indeed do it then it could have been a result of stress, trauma, and frustration at not having any real enemy or objectives and no firm date of leaving.

If the did commit the atrocity then tehy need to be reprimanded as it was a lethal loss of control and discipline. Those actions have damaged more lives than the 24 who are now dead, their relative may never recover from the loss. Their officers will be court martialled for a loss of control of their troops and their actions also have a much wider effect on the occupation forces in Iraq.

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder could also have been a motivating factor it is a serious condition especially in members of the armed forces.

The truth needs to be found for the relatives of teh dead they deserve the truth and need to see justice for their families.


Flaming Pope
no, marines are trained to be able to control stress to the maximum. The marines are also trained to do first dont question orders. So with 99% certainty, I can say that the marines where probally orderd to kill those in the houses. sad, yes, but the marines ARE NOT trained to question orders, even if it was to kill citizens.


lilrebelgalk
From what I have witnessed between media and the military is one thing, that what really happens is always twisted around to make a good story. The medias main objective is to get the public talking about the newest story coming out of the war zones. Dont take the side of the media right away, they could have gotten the whole story wrong. Dont give up on our military, they all need our support. More than likely the Marines were under stress. Anyone who has been in a war zone can tell you that the one thing on their mind at all times is getting home, and getting away from all the violence. If these Marines had been there for awhile and had to deal with this violence everyday then they were going to snap. When you are sitting at home watching the news or even a war movie you can turn off the tv if you see something gross or disturbing. But when your over there in the action, you cant turn it off, its all around you all of the time. You are bound to see that one thing that will haunt you forever. Its stressful over there, and some people can handle that kind of stress; but most people cant handle seeing those they know die, and knowing they could be here in America with there family and friends. This whole story might be true, if it is true then they snaped; but just remember that these Marines will remember that day and it will haunt them for the rest of there lives. All we can do is pray for those Marines, and hope that this story is wrong.





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