Did we lose the vietnam war?

rz1971

Militarily the US didn't lose, we lost because the media and hippies decided to erode support for the troops which resulted in our withdraw and then the fall of South Vietnam. Many hippies don't like to be told that they were the reason we lost as many are now our 'intellectuals' and teachers.

grips

We were winning when I left!

Roadrunner58-79

N O, The Armed Forces of the United States of America won the Vietnam War, BUT the weasels in the US Government and the weasels in the anti-war groups lost the war.
US ARMY(RET) Vietnam 1967-1968-1971

grizzlytrack

The troops won every engagement they were involved in. The politicians and the anti-war cowards were the only losers!
USMC 60-68

c1523456

No. We withdraw under a treaty. The North Vietnamese violated the treaty in 1975 and overthrow the South Vietnamese.

origen01

We did not lose Vietnam because it wasn't an official act of aggression against the North. We were simply helping the South in their Civil War. If anything, the South lost the war...we just failed to meet our objective.

We actually won in Korea as the US objective along with the UN forces was to secure South Korea. Objective completed. BTW: We are still active in Korea partoling the DMZ.

We sure as hell did not lose the War of 1812 cause there still is a United States of America.

Alan S

lets see, Saigon was the southern capital. we pulled the last of our guys off from rooftops in Saigon as the north was over running it. When you capture the enemy's capital I believe that's called winning and we were on the other side so I think fair to say we lost. But in all truth, it's much like Iraq, there really was no way to win. It was the US playing chess with China and Vietnam was the board.

Mr. O

you're right, officially it was not a war.

but then why do the history books refer to it as the vietnam WAR? because technically it was a war.

just like we are at war now, even though there was no declaration of war. for all intents and purposes, it is a war.

yes_its_me

By definition we have not declared a war since 1941. We have engaged in "Police Actions in order to halt the spread of Communism in both Korea and Viet Nam. He won every Major battle and obtained the objective in Korea. That was to keep North Korea on their side of the DMZ. In Viet Nam we won all of the major battles and failed to meet our objective. The country became communist shortly after our withdrawal.
He had another brief engagement in Desert Storm. We definitely won that battle and achieved the limited objective we had. In the latest "Police Actions" in Iraq and Afghanistan we again won every battle, however we are not too successful at keeping the peace in the country as an occupying force.
So we are undefeated in Declared Wars and we win most battles that we fight. We just don't know how to win over the countries we are in to support us when the big battles are over. Insurgency is the new battle tactic, and as long as we follow our so called "rules of engagement", we will have a tough time repatriating countries who were used to brutal dictators.

kapute2

for anyone who insists we lost it, I always ask where the surrender document is...we didn't "lose" it, but we let out allies in South Vietnam lose

BrigadeGeneral

U.S forces won every battle in that war. But...lost the war. Due to no support frm their ppl.

Baby Raptor

No because now they do all the manufacturing for us so really we won in the end. Americans want to do the thinking jobs!!

linuxiac

America and South Viet Nam won TET and other military offensives, overwhelmingly. We were winning when I left.

But, the few detracters and some liberal pansies in the media convinced the political machine that we were losing the political war of capitalism and democracy against the communist regime, which were backed by both China (arms and ground support, transport vehicles) and Russia (SAMs, Migs, pilots, technicians, and high tech gear, and more trucks)!

The U.S. military is simply an extension of U.S. foreign policy enforcement.

Since Viet Nam, we have engaged in more than 30 "Police Actions", most of which you'll never know.

Hell, I'm privy, and I don't know each and every one, only those in which I participated.

You might have heard of the Mayaguez, or Bosnia-Herezgovena... and even that little thing called Granada, or Panama.

There were some others, and no one is going to know about them. Well, outside the operatives, who are sworn to secrecy. It is all the work of a huge government.

Coasty

Yes the US Government did not have the political will under President Johnson to allow the military to win so we lost. There is only wining and losing once the shooting starts.

aries_jdd

What were our political goals in the fight?

To ensure the continuation of the 1954 resolution ending French colonial rule. The agreement stipulated that the communist north would not take over the non-communist south.

Under that definition, the United States failed to achieve its political goals.

We lost the war.

MenifeeManiac

Any time we lose a war that had not been officially declared as war by Congress, the history books will reflect it as not being a war, but merely an "engagement."

I believe deploying US soldiers to battle for over 10 years against another country may constitute a war...

US: 7
North Vietnam: 1
North Korea: 1
Iraq: Undecided
Afghanistan: Undecided

lovesassflake

Yes. We lost. You must bow down and obey your North Vietnamese conquerers. Cooperation is a must. They have promised us mercy, if we cooperate, death if we resist.

We've lost lots of wars. We lost the Korean war. We lost the war of 1812. One side lost the Civil war.

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