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Do the Vietnam Veterans know they lost the Vietnam war?
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Do the Vietnam Veterans know they lost the Vietnam war?

The French colonized Vietnam until the 50s when North Vietnamese communist factions succeeded in driving them out. The USA fully engaged with the Cold War between itself and the Soviet Union quickly involved itself in the region to ensure that the balance of power in that region did not tip towards the Soviets. It put its support behind the South Vietnamese who were opposed to the North.

What the US failed to recognize, was that the Viet Cong were never interested in the broader interests served by the Cold War. Their one aim was to gain self determination. Having been colonized by the French, they fought bitterly against the US, who they saw to be next in line as an imperial conqueror.

They fought much harder than anyone in US intelligence could have predicted and the "soft" Americans unaccustomed to the jungle surroundings found themselves at a disadvantage. This ultimately led to the first American defeat in warfare. Something from which the US has never truly recovered.


    




THEFOX
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You Want Some Action on that question: Ask the Marines that were there... Especially D."Bing" B. assault-man 0359 he was there all of 6 weeks before "Chuck" put a chi-com mortar in his back pocket.

Log in as a Marine here and ask it on their Marine forum. www.togetherweserved.com.

Its not an official Marine web site (it is owned by a millionaire Non-Marine oilman who lives in Beverly Hills CA. in a 3 1/2 Million dollar home) but those Marines there that pay 14.95 per year think a Marine owns it, have fun.

Let us know what happened...


boyan_boba
of course they don't


alfjr24
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oh, my...
my father in law is a vietnam veteran, and i think he would have a different oppinion than you...

have you ever spoken with a vietnam veteran???
if not, i suggest you do. you may be surprised at what they tell you.


loubean
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My dad was in Vietnam, and you two tell very different stories....guess which one I believe? Stupid hippie.


MikeGolf
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And how do you explain the fact that the South Vietnamese people had their right to self-determination taken from them when they were invaded and conquered by the North Vietnamese years after they signed a cease-fire?

BTW - have you ever talked to anybody who had to flee S. Vietnam to avoid being murdered or sent to a 're-education' camp?


dea
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hmmk


Tonatiuh
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the vietnam veterans did not lose the war.... it was the idiots who were running the country that lost the war....


frenchy62
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I have to respectfully disagree. The service members did not lose the war. The government that did not enough to support them and set them up for failure lost the war.


The Boot
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You are a punk who has never heard a shot fired in anger! I am a Vietnam vet of more than five years total time, and we "lost" that war because wimpy candy-assed politicians like you wanted to attach "rules" just like they are trying to do now. An IRON FIST wins wars. Read your history books, liberal.


zukoi
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It is hard to admit for the losing side that they have lost, america's goal was to stop vietnam from becoming communist state, even they carved out South Vietnam as capitalist thnking that they will continue fighting commies, but when US withdrew, both were united to make Communist Republic of Vietnam
US withdrew coz they were taking too many casualties and war was going nowhere


nicolasraage
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Do gutless protesters realize they lost the vietnam war for the U.S. while getting thousands of U.S. soldiers killed?


Thankfully, we have a President who won't let history repeat himself because a few ignorant protesters scream louder than the rest of this country.


drinkalottajack
ive talked with quite a few veitnam veterans, and what they say is surprising. we had a lot of victories and we had better training and weapons. what surprises me is how people (like you) blame our veterans for the outcome when all they did was fight. The US government was too soft and in wars you have to be totaly fast and ruthless, willing to take no prisoners. thats a problem the US faces now. when we did the Shock and Awe, we not only gave Saddam a 24 hour heads up, we didnt cripple the country. instead we bombed empty government buildings. thats whe happens when the government tells the military what to do.


James R
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Hey brown eye stain why don't you tell us. If your bio is correct you were there. Unless you were behind a desk somewhere crying because you wanted to go home. your a disgrace. I wish you lived close to me. Your lies and computer days would be over.


couchyummies
You're a BOOGER SNOODLE!!! No need for the history lesson, most of know the facts. Are you sure you know the facts? What do you know about making sacrifices? Most of those veterans served their country under draft. GO HIDE UNDER A ROCK!!


?
The Australian forces who fought in the war are scarred for life. Sadly we went to war to support America and our troops came home to no recognition. They were conscripted, they didn't want to go, but so many have taken their lives since. That was a war that should never have happened.


LARRY J7
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YO DAWG--LET'S BE PERFECTLY CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING HERE--MARK IT DOWN --TUCK IT NEATLY UNDER YOUR PILLOW AND SLEEP ON THIS ONE "MILITARY DUDE"---THE VIET NAM VET DID NOT LOOSE THE WAR---THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAW FIT TO PULL OUT (IT WAS DONE FOR POLITICAL REASONS) ONCE AGAIN AND BE VERY CLEAR HERE DUDE-----THE VIET NAM VET DID NOT LOOSE THE WAR---PERIOD


faeryfyir
Were you asleep in U.S. History class? Have you done any research at all into the beginnings or endings of the 'Viet Nam Era'? Have you interviewed any VN Vets? What 'recovery' are you talking about? What planet are you from?


swampfox conservative
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US Military did not lose the war, the politicians lost the war.

50+ thousand US soldiers gave their all, and should never be disrespected.(remember the majority were drafted, unlike today where we have an all volunteer military)

All gave some, Some gave all.





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