Does anybody think nationa service should be brought back.?

huggz

Yes it should be brought back;

bballfan81

Then you have soldiers who don't want to serve. Remember what happened in Vietnam. We should learn from our history.. or we will be forced to repeat it. Soldiers now enlisted voluntarily, so they knew they could be sent to Iraq and that is part of the job. However, if you force people now to go to a war they don't believe is right, like the polls show Iraq is right now, they wou will be living through another Vietnam. It wouldn't work.

ral

yes i believe it should, the amount of young yobs with no respect or concern for other might just learn a few things and be given some purpose in life!

DeMarcus J

No. First of all, there is no evidence that mandated military service will instill discipline or cut down on crime. I am more than positive that crime still existed in America when military service was mandated and I am also sure that there were some non-disciplined individuals forced into service by the draft. This latter point is perhaps the biggest criticism of a mandated draft. The all volunteer military produces individuals that WANT to be in the military. A mandated draft will necessarily bring in individuals that may have a philosophical opposition to military service and thus do NOT want to be there. Personally, if I were involved in a war I would want someone who wanted to be in the military protecting my back instead of someone more concerned with their own well-being due to a lack of self-discipline, honor, and courage, all of which is arguably innate in those who choose military service.

jizzumonkey

yes i think it should be brought back ...

fred405

Could be an answer to the ASBO situation

Perhaps persistant offenders could be given this option

Then again giving a gun to someone with and ASBO doesn't seem such a good idea

But yes I think it would go some way to instilling some discipline and moral values in some of the young

You notice that I say "some" as I think that it is only some that need some outside intervention in getting their lives back on to the same track as the majority.

johnstrangey

being in the navy we have this conversation alot and the general feeling is it should be brought in if you are not staying in education or joining a public service .also it should not just be the forces it should include the fire service police and NHS for example which would give more skills to these kids and in turn lower crime and unemployment

LadyMoonlight!!

Like my other question I would love to see "Staff Sergeant Eddie Stone" take a bunch of little ASBO scumbags through the SAS selection course on "Hard tac" like that TV series a few years ago.

Seriously they would last five minutes before they were crying for their mummies.

Might make them into men rather than little shits though.

Handing out ASBOS doesn't work, but an American style bootcamp with scary drill instructors might.

Mr Sceptic

No, least of all the military authorities. Why should they want the job of training hundreds of thousands of unwilling conscripts? And when you've trained these young people to kill, will they use these skills back in civilian lfe?

robspursfan

Yes! Without a doubt!

ian f

Certainly yes:
Having watched bad lads army over the last few series I see young kids without a future, but jail, become respectable adults after only 6 weeks. It is hard hitting for these lads to bow down to discipline but after a while they fall into line and become responsible people with an aim in life. It is all about teamwork and self belief, it's about time these ASBO crap deterents are scrapped and a short sharp shock will do the trick.

jmbsrbmar

Absolutely my friend, absolutely! I've been saying that for a long time now.

the_moon_pixie

Yes it should be, but, only if youngsters didn't get posted abroad in war-zones. I think the disciplining would be good for everyone........including girls. I also think it would deter some of the lads that would have chose to go into the army themselves. That would be good as less of them would fight, so less would be dying. Why should they die for this nation???

bob

It will never come back and wouldn't help anyway.
The idea of forcing people into military service, Jesus, that's terrbile,

lynno

defiantly agree with you,put some of those thugs in line,you would see a big difference to our society ,might make gentle men out of them,

Morphius

in the long run it will not work because if you think about it as soon as their time is up you will have hardened criminals running riot and causing more violence in the streets because they will of had military training in all aspects of combat but then again in the short run it will reduce crime because all the criminals will be in another country killing and stealing for them

paul w

right, although i agree it would cut crime and discipline some people.. its still not the answer, there's nothing worst than a soldier who does'nt want to be there.. its not fair on the decent soldiers who have to trust these people with their lives.. civvy bootcamps might work, i'd be first to apply as an instructor

Robfev

never! national service was created to re-enforce our troops during the two great wars. national sevice would create an army of troops that dont want to be there. our armed forces are the best in the world because the troops enjoy what they do, and if you enjoy something then you do better. although, if the youths of today were sent to a military type academy for their crimes, then they would surley benifit from that more, rather than ruin the reputation of our already great service men and women.

Daisy Roots

Yes. It would instill some discipline into CHAVS and hoodies. Wonder if the British Muslims would have to do it or would they be exempt?

militaryboy211

If its not successful now, then the government will have to force people to serve. If you make highschoolers do it, it is considered child labor. The fact is that people have gotten lazy and have become used to someone else doing all the work.

And to everyone else-
NATIONAL SERVICE IS NOT JUST THE MILITARY, IT IS STUFF LIKE THE PEACE CORPS, AMERICORPS, ETC.

heyjoe

some say that the economic situation will force people to serve thus making it "voluntary"

matt

No doubt some of the grotbags roaming the streets could do with some discipline in them, but it'll never happen, unless WWIII breaks out.
If national service was compulsory and a recruit didn't want to do something, he/she would just point blank refuse, and what could the instructor do? You can't physically force someone to do something. Whereas at the moment you get kicked out of training.
It's one of the things that makes our army great - all servicemen/women have worked hard to get through basic training because they want to be a soldier. Think what a nightmare it would be if you had a load of people who didn't want to be there.
"If you don't like it - leave!"

william john l

I do not think it is acceptable when there is no stand off with the Soviet block to take away the liberty of 18 year olds and if they are hard to keep on track in society, giving them weapons and training them to be brutal is no solution

farshadowman

I don't like this but now yes.
If we cannot be bothered to address the issues that confront inner city youth today which in my opinion are legion and much more complex than they were in my day.
Then the really violent ones should not only do National service but potentially be made into the backbone of the army it's what they do, fight.

34th B.G. - USAAF

Yes.
I am distinguishing "National Service" from "the Draft." I am not in favor of the Draft - but our Country sure could use some help from our young people in many other ways - and they would be better off for it.

bert

No,here in the U.K. we have the best and most professional armed forces in the world,to bringing back conscription would people them with members who have no real interest apart from getting their time over,thus hampering the professionals,

burning brightly

Yes it solves that big problem of what to do with the young unemployed both girls and boys it gives them a purpose in life and an aim.

A True Gentleman

It's a disgusting concept. I hate this government and would never try to help it any way whatsoever.

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