Doesn't every good General know that numbers don't win a War, So why doesn't Bush?
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Doesn't every good General know that numbers don't win a War, So why doesn't Bush?
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History has been witness to a lot of battles in which many of them prove evidence that no.s do not help in winning a war... Additional Details Battles are decided by various factors. The number of men, the commanders of each army, and the terrain advantages are among the most prominent factors.
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nicolasraage
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the very first factor you listed was the number of men.
Is insulting Bush that important, that you don't even see your own hypocrisies? |
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gary t
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Bush is listening to the Generals, so what are you talking about? |
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Rich B
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Because he isn't a General. As Commander in Chief, he depends on the advice of the JCOS and Pentagon experts for this sort of strategy. If he gets bad advice and acts on it, mistakes occur and he is ultimately responsible. Which is exactly what happened and what he said in his speech.
And the morale of the military isn't helped by a bunch of foul mouthed bashers which I am sure you have seen here on Y!A. These moonbats aren't helping anyone other than themselves in their pathetic Troll attempts.
The battles you mention are of an era so different and so vastly removed from modern combat that I really don't believe they apply here. America's military is expert at taking control of a region. Holding that region for prolonged periods is difficult at best and not something we are equipped to do especially since our military was pared to the bone in recent decades. If we were like China with the population they have, we would simply consider our people as fodder. We don't and we don't. To compare America's military to that of ancient Greece just doesn't work. Numbers, conditions, technology...it's just too different. |
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KC V â„¢
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I think you somewhat contradict yourself when you say many factors determine who wins the battle and war because you specifically state issues such as terrain, morale, and numbers of soldiers! However, I must admit that you have stated some very good points but left out "public opinion." Battlefields have changed dramatically over the centuries. No longer are massive amounts of bombs and personnel needed to fight such battles. In todays era...more support personnel are needed than actual soldiers as such during WWI, WWII, Korea, or Vietnam. Technology with smartbombs, pilotless aircraft, and such have changed the way we fight! Bush understands a lot more than many of us give him credit for. The President is continuously briefed by experts in the field on a continuous basis. The general public gets their briefings from the news media which can often times be biased and sensationalized to stir anxiety towards a specific issue....why not...it makes them money!! Does it prevent the devestation caused by the likes of Saddam....no!....only showing those who've ASKED for our help in spreading a democratic society does! |
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mommyismyname
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His plan is to send more troops to work alongside the Iraqis to "hold and contain" the sunni's and shiite's so that their Iraqi leader (Maliki) can do his job. They are trying to hold elections and build their new government, but the sectarian violence is uncontrollable. Condleezza Rice claimed last night that Maliki had wanted to do this himself using only the Iraqi forces, but was unable to so early. She said that it would be summer before his own forces were able to contain the violence themselves and that with our help, it could be done now. One Senator last night said we needed to teach Sunni and Shiite families to "love their children more than they hate their neighbors" and I thought that was a very powerful statement. I have yet to decide whether or not I agree with the President's "new" plan. I question Maliki's sincerity, however I am (personally) hoping he does follow through with his promises. If not, I say enough is enough. Condoleezza Rice stated last night that "we will know very soon" whether or not he (Maliki) is following through with his obligations". I believe that, if he does not, we need to get the hell out of there and let them deal with their own mess. My patience has been tested, and is wearing thin. I want to help the Iraqis, but not at a huge American price... |
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Fabio D
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that's a huge truth, but something where general numbers don't win battles, but they help. But in this particular case, send more troops won't help think in part he is doing this to intimidate more the rebels in Iraq, and the Iraqi government most be pushing too for more help, you have to remember this is not a conventional war..... |
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MH/Citizens Protecting Rights!
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Maybe, but then again, Generals are usually the last to change their tactics unless he/she is like Patton -- "Rommel, you son-of-a-*****, I read your book!"
The only reason the USA was victorious in WW1,II, and the Korean War was because 1. The citizens were united for a cause and we were willing to sacrifice our time, money, raw materials, and labor to ensure that whatever was destroyed was replaced immediately. 2. Our ability to retool, rebuild, and revamp, with creativity, sensitivity and tenacity, along with our elected officials' ability to work with the leaders of other countries without alienating them, helped us.
GW Bush refuses to listen to anyone. He is in a "self-destruct and bring the USA down with him" mode. He is blinded by ambition that is misguided and favors only money and greed. He gives the impression that he's religious while his actions put him squarely in league with the devil.
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tankbuff, 19 violations so far
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easy .... bush is a president not a general. |
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Curt
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Its good to know we have a war planner on this sight. I am not a war planner, and have 0 military experience, so I can't really say too much about this new idea. What makes you so qualified? I don't know if it will work or not, but everyone has been saying something needs to be done, this is something. It won't get any worse. |
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pablo techno escabar 1
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Bush hasn't realized this is a guerrilla war,you cant hit what you
cant see.He is leading the USA into another Vietnam,a fight you
cant win.You are just putting more targets on the streets for
the insurgents to hit.Lets face it you have changed the oil sold
in euros by Saddam back to dollars,and you now control the
last oil producing country on earth(ask yourselves this was it
worth it?) |
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firstminion
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Bush's problem is that he is using standard military tactics against something that is not using standard military tactics. Terrorism does not work like battles that took place on the Western Front.
Tiny terrorist cells of 10 and 12 exist all over Iraq and often have no knowledge of other tiny cells that exist in in the same city let alone the same country. Capture one cell and they know no more information except about their own cell.
Bush cannot fight a war on terrorism by simply throwing more Americans at the problem. The body count will increase and eventually, if it has not already happened, this will turn into another Vietnam which faced the same problem. The Viet Cong from the north were terrorists. The US didn't understand that then and Bush doesn't understand that now. Adding more numbers gives Saddam's supporters more targets. |
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Jim
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I only have one thing to say. Bush may be Comander in Cheif but he is no way a General. |
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hazeltine4
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Bushitler can't admit when he is wrong. Only Rice and McCain are on his side now. Even Cheney has disappeared again. Bush does not even know how to explain what "success" is in this Iraqnam fiasco, yet he claims that if we pull out, we will "lose." If you can't explain what it means to win, how can you say what losing is?
Even Rice said this increase of 22,000 troops and the adding of 95,000 more military bodies over 5 years is not an "escalation." Of course she could not explain to Congress why she felt that adding troops was not an escalation.
These people are idiots. Even many of Bush's closest aadvisors and the Generals do not agree with this. He had said he would do what the Generals advised, and then when he didn't like their advise, he replaced them!
I thought we had a Democracy here -- not a dictatorship..... |
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Anne2
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The generals have been in military service, Bush skipped out on his. thus he does not really understand the problems. He could use a geography lesson also, 9/11 had nothing to do with Iraq. |
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Brite Tiger
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Bush is without a doubt THE most incompetent President in U.S. history. Sending an additional 20,000 troops to Iraq is like pouring a glass of water in the ocean, same effect, ZERO. You can not unscramble an omelet, and Bush has scrambled one hell of an omelet. |
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delujuis
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bush is just feeding his ego with kids lives and middle-classes money. |
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notyou311
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He's desperate to save his "legacy" which is already recognized as the worst in US history. It doesn't matter to him how many brave soldiers die. |
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