General Petraeus - Some sort of traitor-guy, or man with an ineviable job?

tom l

To begin with this one has nothing to do with left or right wing. Their views on Iraq policy have been set in stone for several years now, and it is unlikely that a report from General Petraeus will change any minds one way or the other.
The idea that someone is a traitor to their country just because they have a different opinion than me doesn't work. Our country was founded on having different opinions.

The job of a military leader is to advance the policies of the nation he serves. So expecting General Petraeus to do anything other than support the policies of his Commander and Chief is ludicrous (ask General MacArthur what happens when you do)

Sean C

He's the General of the entire Military effort in Iraq, How easy do you think this job would be?

people think he's a liar becasue he actually says that there is improvement to Iraq and that the mission is producing good results even if they are slow. That's not what those who are calling him a liar and betrayer want to hear.

Antiliber

General Petraeus is a lifetime serviceman to the U S. his is a Combat Veteran that has risen to the rank of 4 star General, the top ranking of all military men. He represents the U. S. Troops. To call him a liar even before he said a word is a complete disrespect of this Country and OUR TROOPS.

To call him a traitor or LAP DOG without any proof at all is pathetic... who is the traitor?

macaroni

Only ignorant left wing liberals think he is a betrayer because he didn't tell them what they wanted to hear. The truth does not fit into their agenda. For them to slander this man, shows what little sniveling traitorous cowards they truly are. When they come out with this tripe, they only lower my opinion of them yet again.

*****

A full general is not as powerful as you might think. The President is commander in chief, and is his boss, so he is under his thumbnail. If things go sour in Iraq, guess who the fall guy will be?

Jerry H

here is a very nice article that describes the recent report.

http://www.commondreams.org/news2007/0911-08.htm

The peice that caught my eye is the fact that the Bush admin doesn't count certain types of deaths anymore. And that they do not realize that ethnic cleansing in the regions are mostly complete through evacuations and killings.

I don't think the US can ever face or admit the fact that this war was brought on by lies that totally killed Iraq. But that's not any concern of the US at all though.

Raymond J

He doesn't support the seditious agenda of the Democrats. Of course they'll label him a traitor. As for Democrats, who can take them seriously, particularly in matters of national security. I place Democrats in the same category as scrotal fungus. Until it goes away, you just have to put up with it.

darrell m

yes he has a very difficult job,anytime you are a leader is a war zone no matter what size your unit, be it a fire team,squad up to the top dog it is a difficult job.as for being a traitor he is more honorable than anyone who is saying such things about him. ever hear of a saying that goes like this? the truth hurts. those on the democrat side of the aisle don't like what they are hearing because it doesn't fit their agenda. and that's all it is a political agenda, to the left at our troops expense.

MikeGolf

A good and honorable man - who is attacked because he say things that the liberals do not want to hear.

A question you should be asking is: "Can we afford to allow the Democrats to intimidate our military leaders into saying what they want to hear instead of honest assessments?"

Negligence

Inenviable job, definitely.

don't stress over it, the truth will come out one way or another.

Jake

He's a good man. He's doing what Bush wants. The military has to put their personal feelings aside and they have to do what the boss tells them to do.

pretzeldent

He seems like a pretty good guy.

Relentlessly optimistic - perfect for Dubya to throw under the bus.

cantcu

Well he cooked the books and he doesn't work for the people, he works for Bush. Even his own Boss doesn't agree with him!

Four hours after Bushs speech we get this. AND BUSH KNEW ABOUT THIS REPORT BEFORE HE WENT ON TV TO LIE AGAIN!

White House report shows little progress By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer
43 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A new White House report on Iraq shows slim progress, moving just one more political and security goal into the satisfactory column: efforts to let former members of Saddam Hussein's Baath Party to rejoin the political process, a senior administration official told The Associated Press.

The latest conclusions, to be released Friday, largely track a comparable poor assessment in July on 18 benchmarks. The earlier White House report said the Iraqi government had made satisfactory gains toward eight benchmarks,
unsatisfactory marks on eight and mixed results on two.
Congress required President Bush to submit the report to lawmakers, assessing whether the Iraqi government had made progress toward achieving the 18 goals. In
the new report, the Iraqi government showed positive movement on only one of the benchmarks.
The goal of enacting and implementing legislation on so-called "de-Baathification" was rated satisfactory instead of unsatisfactory, the official said Thursday evening. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the report had not been made public."

The Iraqis have done squat and a yearr from now all we will have is a burnt out military, another $100 BILLION down the tubes, 1,200 more body bags, 100 more suicides!

Start the draft and get all the Republicans first for a change! They have been getting a free ride far too long!

Bruce J

Two words.

Lap.

Dog.

Two more words. Tough job. The guy is between a rock and a hard place. When your president asks you to take a job like this, you really only have one answer if you don't want your career to be over. He knows that he only has to hold on for a year. After Bush leaves office, Petraeus will leave the service, and get a cushy job with Halliburton or some other contractor. It'll be a tough time for him, but in the end, he will be taken care of. It's more than I can say for most of the troops...

ioerr

I don't know that he's any kind of "betrayer," or even a liar. Though I do think a lot of what he says is just so much more smoke up the taxpayers' butts.

What makes you think his job is hard though? He's got the biggest, most expensive army in the world supporting him. He's arrayed against a lot of barely organized irregulars equipped mostly with homemade bombs and seconhand assault rifles. This is a hard job?

I guess you could call it hard if you really expect him to turn Iraq into some kind of middle east version of America's Own Home Town. I doubt there's enough soldiers or money in the world to do that.

But all he reallly has to do, realisticaly, is keep his job a few more years, collect some pay, go through the motions until the US gets tired of throwing its money down this particular rathole.

Washington will find some other "big emergency" to fleece the taxpayers with, and by then he'll be about ready to retire.

David R

I think hes the only one left. Most of are high ranking generals have quit or retired during this war and most are now strong critics of the war and or the war policy. That should tell people a lot.

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