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Rick
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To be a good friend in this situation means to support her and push her to finish. What she needs now isn't someone to help her find a way out but to encourage her and give her the strength to continue on. Of course she is miserable right now. It's basic training. It is meant to break you down. At this stage though she is about to be built back up. Things only get better from here.
If she feels the same way after basic then maybe the lifestyle isn't for her. My money is on her changing her mind by then though. The sense of pride one achieves at that point is indescribable. Push her to strive for that.
If she were to leave now, she would be miserable for years to come. Fulfilling her obligation and doing her duty will be much more rewarding.She will come out a better and stronger person if she but sees it through. Getting that college diploma will open so many doors for her as will her military service. Why slam them all shut just because she is having a hard time right now? It's the nature of the beast. She must get through this to enjoy the fruits of her labour.
Consider it like childbirth. It hurts like hell but in the end you have something beautiful to show for it and all the pain is worth it. It may hurt now but in the end, I highly doubt she will regret it. |
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JW.C
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If she fails to finish boot camp then she will be discharged and no she won't get anything.
Understand that boot camp isn't supposed to be easy. Just tell her to chill and make the most of the situation because after boot camp is over it gets much easier.
In addition she is in one of the only jobs in the country with job security.
Tell her to hang in there and give the military a chance. It worth the effort. If she forces them to kick her out, she can kiss any future government job that she might want goodbye. |
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Qextor
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Of course she's miserable - boot camp isn't meant to be fun. It's meant to whip you into shape in a hurry, so that you have a firm base for further training to build on. Nothing else, usually, is more intense than boot camp; normal military life is easier. Have her give it another chance. College money is an earned perk; you have to serve a certain amount of time to be eligible. |
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Lil'Red
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Should of thought it through. don't sign up if your not ready. Sorry we need good army people not people that do **** on a "whim".
You can go to the board and give reason as to why she wants out, but usually they deny that.
My boyfriend went in at 17 and wanted out, tired to appeal because he "wasn't ready and didn't think it was for him" they said to bad! He has been in for 6 years now and loves it and is happy they didn't let him out.
You can get medical discharge if somethings wrong with her, but lieing can get you in big trouble if there isn;t.
And no if they let her go she CANNOT keep her college money, its gone. Why would they give her college money if shes no longer in the army?
Kids keep signing up for the army for college money not realizing the risk they are taking.
She can write an appeal but if she is healthy and mental stable its probably a no for for her.
Tell her it gets better after boot camp because it really does.
She needs to see it through more than 4 weeks.
everyone is miserable at boot camp. |
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jlm9398
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She can get a entry level separation for failure to adapt. If she is in her fourth week she is hating life right now, being told where to be what to do and when to go to bed and clean the latrine. She is at the breaking point. Now she is just at the end of red faze. Next week they will start BRM and get into white faze and start to have a bit more fun. She can get out but she will also see in a couple weeks that life is getting better. Her options are to finnish out basic and AIT or she can get out. She will get a entry level separation and the drill sergeants will probably keep her there until after everyone else has shipped on to their AIT. She will loose all her money for school and may end up with an other than honorable discharge. This will follow her around for atleast six months and then it can be appealed for an honorable. I would suggest that you encourage her to complete basic and then see how she feels about it.
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arbasicpol/blels.htm |
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bang a rang
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It's extremely, extremely difficult to get discharged after joining.
And no, she will not be able to keep the money for college, nor should she. |
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Baby #1 on 12/10/08
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Forget this "how to get discharged" nonsense. Support your friend by encouraging her to finish, she's almost half way there. She's in basic, it's supposed to misery for her and the days she's putting in now will not be her Army experience throughout her entire enlistment. As far as college money, if you're talking about the GI bill why would a quitter be entitled to it? |
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~*BB*~
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unless you get hurt in the military the only way your getting out is with a dishonerable discharge and last i checked mcdonalds didnt even hire people with that on their record. |
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pissychirssy
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It was an okay question til the end, keep her money. Ha, what does kind of sense of entitlement do you have? If you have done nothing you deserve nothing, and at this point all she has done is waste the governments money on training, as if they would give her a big college bonus for being too weak to stick it out. Get real, if that is her attitude I hope she has to finish her whole contract maybe it will teach her not to make rash decisions and maybe a she will learn a little responsibility. Welcome to the world of adulthood, don't' worry it only gets worse. |
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OMG It's Brobee!
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Betray the American Government, that should get her out of the army.
But in all seriousness, she signed a contract, I think she might be in it for the long run. |
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raystanz23
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First you must complete 3 years of honorable service to get the money from the GI bill. Next if she is in basic she suppose to be miserable. But tell her to stick it through it because she does something to get pushed out then she will be there longer with people yelling at her. Friend of mine had bad shin splints when we were in af basic they sent him to the 319th training squadron which is where you go when you get medical reviewed, failure to adapt etc.. his 6 weeks of basic turned to 18 weeks |
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Mrsjvb
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the easiest fastest least complicated way is to FINISH HER CONTRACT.
No she cannot keep her college money, she hasn't earned it until she has served 3 years. |
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beksanne
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IF shes able to get out, no she wont get her college money. Its defiantly not right to try and find a way to get out and keep the money that goes to help those who are involved.
Sorry but I dont think you can just leave, has to be something physically wrong with you that can be proven. |
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J J
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become disabled or do something with another girl.
no she cant keep the money and she will NEVER get a good job |
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KingDingaling69
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JW.C had the best answer if she sticks it through then she wont regrether decision most likely, i wanted to quit the first few weeks too but it got better |
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4cryinoutloud
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When I was in Naval boot camp (Orlando Florida) in 1981, it was P3 day which means boot camp hadn't really started yet. We were still waiting for all the recruits to check into our company. Anyway we get up bright and early on P3 day as we are hitting the line (lining up in front of our bunks) this gal a couple bunks down from me misses the line and heads for a window. She walked right into it and knocked herself down hard. Turns out she was sleep walking and was immediately discharged. Sleep walking is not something you want to do on a ship in the middle of the ocean. But I don't know if that would apply in the Army.
Then during boot camp another girl found a pot hole on the fit trail and mangled her ankle, she was also discharged. |
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~Les~
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She can't just get discharged, she will have to do the time and work it out. To get the college money she will have to serve her contract time. She needs to talk to the big people and see what can be done but I'm pretty sure (my bf was in the army for 2 contracts) she can't just get out and keep the money. |
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GiR
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if she doesn't serve like 30 consecutive months then she is not getting any college money. And boot camp is suppose to be miserable if she hates it when she graduates then she can get out on a failure to adapt but still lose her college money. |
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Grim R
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unfortunately, I don't believe she can keep the college money. Unless it came from her paycheck she receives from the military. As for getting discharged, I don't believe she can get out without being injured or some other special occasion. But this is also a hard question to ask. Tell her to ask her sergeant how to leave, or his commanding officer. |
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boreduninspired
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There are always people that want to get out after a few weeks. She doesn't even know what the army is really like yet. My older brother did the same thing, but he stuck with it and was better for it in the long run. You should encourage your friend to stick with it. It will get easier.
As far as college money goes, ask yourself this: Why would Uncle Sam pony up thousands of dollars for somebody who can't hold up their end of the bargain? |
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Lu W
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If she gets discharged then she does not get the benefit of the Army paying for her college.
She must obligate her contract. |
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Dorian
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fail everything and show lack of motivation! maladaptiveness and signs of counter progress.... trust me if you show you dont want to be there, they are not going to want you watching their backs or counting on you... as for stuff i shouldnt tell you like women and stress fractures in lower limbs go hand in hand in any military training, possible asthma can also get you red flagged... hmmmmm what else lets see.... any injury to your back, since back injuries are so hard to diagnose would be favorable.. having a meltdown will get you put on watch and kicked out... im not sure if this all will help, because she has to show them... in other words act like it very well for whatever reason she chooses, but given her mod of not wanting to be there and it being a mistake for joining it shouldnt be to hard to pull off... oh and shin splints can get you out if you have a very bad case... its the pain you get in your shins that are from overuse... good luck and it is understandable... |
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dajaxta
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Pretend ur gay |
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lamekid
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i know this works for guys but i think you can get out of the army if you pretend to be gay, frag* your commanding officer, blow your self up, buy a brain and realize that WHEN YOU ARE STRESSED OUT DON'T DO STUPID THINGS!!!!!!!!!!
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging |
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Wheeee!
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honourable discharge...
be too unfit, purposely fail (referral)
be injured
break/fracture/medical reasons
personal reasons say death of a family member
honesty...
theyd rather have dedicated soldiers fighting with determination, than a lazy soldier whos regrets signing up... |
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Zaq1
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lol no way to get her money unless she reaches then end then gets out but if you want out it would take a family emergency or a pretty bad injury which is probably not clausable sorry but big decisions like that should be thought out long and hard. |
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supermedic49
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contact congressman, there may be a small time frame available to get out but not much time left to do it. and if she had signed up for gi bill she wont be able to keep that. the only other way i know of is for her to go awol and then she would be in trouble they would find her and the probably give her a dishonorable discharge |
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Steve qa
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I think their is something in Her contract that gives her 180 days of signing, and that gives her a entry level discharge. |
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just refuse to participate, I did the same thing years back, they will get a general discharge and they will be harrassed constantly but if they dont want to be there
and no you cant keep the college money, just what you earned in your time in the service |
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