How is it wrong for terrorists to kill soldiers?
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How is it wrong for terrorists to kill soldiers?
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The entire premise of military action is killing is justified in warfare. They did declare war -- a holy war -- but a war nonetheless. We kill them, they kill us. They declare war on us and we declare war on them. So what's the difference? Sure, it is wrong they kill civilians. But that's missing the point of this question.
The media condemns terrorists for killing soldiers. For beheadings, torture, or attacking the Pentagon. It is my honest conviction that the attack on the Pentagon was infact a legitimate act of war, or at least no less legitimate than the attack on the British Navy staged by American terrorists in 1776.
That's the point. What makes someone a terrorist? Every government in history has declared insurgents to be terrorists because it's a convenient word. Is it right because our government says it is? Because Bush says so?
Bull. I don't buy it. Your lives have no more or less value than so-called terrorists. It's no tragedy, you knew what you were signing up for. Additional Details "The Pentagon attack happened before we declared war. Those in the Pentagon were civilians. By your own admission it is wrong to kill civilians."
It is a military institution, a military leadership institution no less. We have a civilian military.. now you're just trying to twist facts and have it both ways.
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SFC_Ollie
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If the pentagon attack was a "legitimate act of war" then you have forgotten something. That attack was only a part of the attacks on the WTC and a hole in the ground in PA. So you are legitimizing the entire attack.
Which of course makes your entire rant WRONG.
And by the way, it is wrong for terrorists to attack and kill our soldiers because our soldiers can fight back and kill them. And that just shouldn't be fair in your eyes. Right?
Update: you are one sick puppy, please seek professional help. |
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rotorhead
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It's not. The problem is, the anti-US, anti-war, anti-military Liberals have made it illegal to kill terrorists. |
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only p
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The Pentagon attack happened before we declared war. Those in the Pentagon were civilians. By your own admission it is wrong to kill civilians. |
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fuzzyface1972
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We could pull all of our troops out of the middle east and the terrorist would just come here to kill us.They don't care where they kill us as long as they kill us.Yes That is WRONG.Why would be want to fight them on our streets after they get a boost by us pulling out.A large boost of people and supplies to use here.It's so easy for them to come across the Mexican Border with their weapons.They have found several tunnels that could handle whatever weapons they have with them.Do you think the drug lords or someone who is bringing illegals across the border would say no to someone who is offering larger amounts of money to get them through. |
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desertviking_00
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The Hirabah (terrorists) want to kill you. They want to kill me. They don't care how you feel, what you believe or whether you want to cut a deal with them. They look upon any concession to them as an act of weakness. Under the heretical doctrine of "Takfir" they will even kill fellow Muslims.
If you don't believe that, consider the words of the leader of Al Queda, Usama Bin Laden at Kandahar Afghanistan in November 2001:
"When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse".
They are carrying out their actions of terrorism to achieve Dar-Al-Islam (a single Islamic world under a single caliphate). To do that they are engaged in terrorist acts within Dar-Al-Harb (the world at war). Their reaction to your appeasing them will be to enter the conference room and shoot people in the head. If you want to know what makes someone a terrorist, get a copy of the book in the source box below and read it. It's in English and only 160 pages long. It is to the Hirabah what "Mein Kampf" was to the Nazis.
And, if you can't recognize that reality, there is no hope for you. Convert to Islam now and be prepared to live under Sharia. |
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mindworms
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the problem is that the terrorists do not use the distinguishing items, i.e. uniforms, or at least a badge that would tell their affiliance. that means they are untraceable unless they open fire att the soldiers.
This in principle enables them to hide among civilians, which it return brings these civilians into a position of human shield.
if the "terrorists" were fighting in the uniforms, there would be nothing LEGALLY wrong with them killing the enemy soldiers. |
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markeen
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I agree something pissed them off way before the Pentagon attacks and they made their point. There is jsut no negotiating with a terrorist which by my defintion is a person or group of angry people at a disagreement with their government. We all live by some order and if one side loses then so be it. You just cant go around killing everyone because you are personally pissed that things arent going your way. Thats not the way social order works. I'm mad at these particular terrorists because there is no end to their disagreements religiously. Just like one dude in texas brain washed all those people in Waco, these people hold their religion to that extreme and cowardness to seduce their own people to do these acts. As an American we cant comprehend a holy war, thats why I feel bad Bush even sent them up there. Its retarded. Just as they fought before we got there, they will fight long after we are gone. Thats just all they have to live for. |
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I AM THE RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY
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Is it fair for terrorists to attack unarmed civilians? Was it fair for Iran to tell young children to run over mine fields? Is it right for suicide bombers to kill 2 to 3 family's just to hurt one American?
Edit:ok I will dumb it down for you. If this truly is a "war" then why does only one side have uniforms? Why do the "freedom fighters" hide among civilians then attack. No its wrong they reside on the strategy of the weak, using innocents as shields to carry out attacks on soldiers while they themselves are nothing more than petty criminals. |
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RTO Trainer
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I agree, as far as the statement that attacks on military targets are legitimate acts of war goes.
Had the 9/11 attacks been confined to the Pentagon, you'd have a point. But they weren't and the other attacks, designed expressly to target civilains, completely invalidates the legitimacy of the other related events.
Similarly, the attack on the USS Cole might be considered legitmate, except that this was an organization that had already attacked the World Trade Center once before, a civilian target, and indicriminately killed civilians at the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. This organization has targeted mosques full of worshipers, hotels, nightclubs, synagogues, commuter trains, and business offices. The fact that they also, occassionally, go after a military target does not transform them back into guerrila warriors.
Your grasp of history is tenuous at best. You refer to an attack by "American terrorists " on the British Navy, but you'll have to better identify this event, as I know of no such thing.
What makes someone a terrorist? When someone deliberately targets civilains in order to achieve a political goal through intimidation of the rest of the population. That's terrorism. |
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shuttleguy1
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It is not so much "wrong" to kill soldiers, no more than when a foreign power engaged in war would try to do to us. The confusion here and the "wrong" involved in the killings is that we are not "at war" (in my opinion) with terrorists. The wars in Afganistan and Iraq (OEF, OIF) are wars against states who both harbour and support terrorist organizations, which, at least in Afganistan, was a threat to national security. We were not screaming the same way when we lost men and women of the armed forces because of conflict with taliban forces. No, the negative connotation comes from the fact that these people, these terrorists do not have a "state" they are not a governement sanctioned "military" they are men and women who have devoted themselves to an ideal. And they are fiercly devoted to that. They fight not for a land, or for freeedom but simply to "kill westerners" That to me is why it is so bad, they aim to hurt simply because of where and how we live, despite the fact that some here even sypathize (although not support) their ideals. |
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Mike O Dea
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terriosts don't have a army they go out to hurt people and kill them !!
soliders are there for a reason to take away the treat of more inocent people dieing !:) |
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artilleryman89
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It's not..the manner in which they do it is wrong. If they think they have the balls to take us on they need to stop sending their children to fight and hiding behind their wives skirts. They are nothing short of cowards and murderers. |
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Impavidsoul
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People are declared terrorists b/c they attack and kill people of a common belief for not believing in something they do. It's a matter of disagreement.
The difference between terrorists and soldiers is that soldiers defend something, terrorists use violence and persecution to make someone do or believe something.
There's a huge difference there, my friend.
Human life is very valuable, no matter who you are, and, yes, soldiers know they have a risk of dying if they sign up, but they don't go in MAKING someone believe what they want by violence and persecution. If they do - they are terrorists.
Hey, lemme ask you this - If you believe this, and I disagree with you, and I go to your house and burn your house down and kill your family to MAKE you agree with me, does that make me a terrorist, or just a soldier?
Good luck. |
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