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I am in the military and my recruiter lied to me, I dont want to wash out but I'd like some justice.?

I am in the military and have been in for almost two years. The reason I joined was because of a program described to me by my recruiter. I was told that when I was 20 and turned corporal I would become part of a college program where I finish out my degree before my enlistment is up and then make a choice of whether or not to continue on in the military as an officer. This has been re-told to me time and time again except I did some digging and found that my superiors and recruiter have lied to me- I can only do this program that I joined the military for if I serve 6 years as enlisted and 4 years as an officer. The reason this info was not in my contract is because I was told I couldn't sign up for this until I was 20. My whole reason for joining was a lie. I don't want to get out, but is there any justice I can seek regarding this deception?

Don't bother if you are going to bash the military. I just want people in the military to answer. I still want to serve, keep that in mind.


    




dancin thru life
First of all, good for you about still wanting to stay in and not blaming the entire organization for this problem.

Secondly, you should know any type of education program in the military requires an additional time committment. It doesn't really sound like you were lied to, just that you weren't told all the details of the program. If you feel there was a specific lie presented to you, you can go to the recruiter's next in command and address the issue. It won't help you a bit, but may help prevent the next recruit from having a similar situation.

Personally, I would chalk it up to a lesson learned, do your research before signing any contract, and never take anyone's word for anything, get it in writing!


DT
You should have gotten it in writing. Even if you couldn't officially sign up until later. Recruiters are just salespeople, and they will do anything to meet their quota.

Why would anyone sign away a significant portion of their life without reading the fine print and making sure the whole deal was fully described?


Jack P
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I am in the Army, I have been in for 8 years, I am an NCO, believe me, there is no justice. They will tell you one thing and make it sound so good, but what counts is what you sign.

To anyone thinking about joining, READ THE CONTRACT!!!
ask as many questions as you can, they can not make you sign, they will try to rush you, but take your time and understand what you are signing. Or you will be stuck like this soldier.

Im sorry to hear about your situation, I will check in on it tomorrow. I will repost if i have an better answer for you.
But as of right now....nothing you can do


Rea
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You need to write a letter stating what you have said. Do not use the word lie, use "I was led to believe". Say in the letter how disappointed you are that you are not able to complete your degree, and how important it is to you. Say in the letter how dedicated you are to the service. Now send the letter to your Congressman, Senator, your Commander and if you want send it to President Bush. I would send an original to each with notation at the bottom that letters have been sent to these. Good luck to you, take care and God Bless. Rea


Top B
If you can't prove your recruiter lied, then he didn't.

As far as college, are you taking any classes right now, for free? Have you been taking any? If so, keep going, if not, why not? What are you waiting for?

As for getting a degree and then deciding whether to stay in or not? How can you enlist for 4 years, serve 2 becoming 20 yrs old, then squeeze a 4 year degree into the remaining 2 years of your enlistment? Furthermore, everthing in the military (outside the military too) has a payback time. Payback for going to school full time is typically 4 years in the Marine Corps.

There are other ways to earn a degree. Most of them built around becoming an Officer. The military doesn't give out free anythings. You getting your degree= you owing time to the miltary.


seahag
Like Rumsfeld said "people get lied to everyday"


NONE Y
You still can achieve your goal. You have the College Fund and Tutition Assistance Program so go to finish your degree.


J K
Justice is what your CO tells you it is.


Mike M
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If you can find a recruiter that doesn't lie I'd be surprised. They lied to me as well.I enlisted in 1975 and got out in 78. I'd probably would have stayed in otherwise. The bottom line is this.If you didn't get it in writing there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I knew guys that did have things in writing and the military had to make good on it.But the ones that didn't were just out of luck.


WINGS
You've been had. The Military is famous for doing this. You aren't the first and you probably won't be the last. I don't know that there is any way to prove that they lied to you except by hear say because you signed legal document. lesson learned read everything you sign before you sign it.


SANDRA Q
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Sorry to hear that you believe that you have been lied to. The promises should have been in black and white even if it would be years after you enrolled. Good luck.


?
Hello. That is odd. Yet, I'm hard pressed to give advice on this since it was omitted from your paperwork. I was given a similar schooling option but I'm 39 and enlisted for an 8 year total. My classes begin in 4 days. Depending upon which branch you're enlisted with, ask the advocate. Like a JAG or whichever would apply for your unit. That would be your best bet. Or, at least, the best that I can tell you. Don't know if this helped but best wished on it. Hope that you get it straightened out. :)


maria fkun
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If your recruiter lied to you at the recruiting then you should gather your facts and make a report to the authorities in charge of that person no harm should come to you.


Stephen C
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First of all I would like to tell you I am a Navy Recruiter currently. The amount of training they give us is very little as far as all the different programs the Navy offers. I'm sure the recruiter and your superiors have heard of the program, but probably none of them had done the research that you did. We don't lie to people, we just tell them what we think is the truth. Programs and rules change in the military everyday. If you don't think something is accurate, ask the recruiter if you can see it in print. If they can't find it or show it to you, don't expect it to be true.


Ilooklikemyavatar..exactly
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If you have that statement in writing, then you can sue. Otherwise, sorry, I think you'll have to just be more careful next time.

Or if you have witnesses, but otherwise it is your word against theirs.


PoliticallyIncorrect
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Recruiters are salesmen......get it in writting, then you are covered....otherwise it's "buyer beware"


T-Bone
my recruiter lied to me too, i'm pretty sure they all do it... it'd be funny if you just called him and confronted him. i mean what's the worst he can do, kick you out? he's just a recruiter!


philbertpheinstein
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It's nice to hear how the military deceives young people. Thanks for speaking out. It's too bad more soldiers don't speak out and tell it the way it really is. You'll never get any justice now that they have you. Good luck.


jeff m
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contact 20 20.....dan rathers should help you


ware
Well I have had the same problem I joined after I turned 17, my birthday was on the 4th in January. Every time I came into the recruiting post the recruiter would tell me something different that contradicted what he had said before. So my solution was this take the information to my father who is currently serving and has served for 30 years, and have him show this to his CO. Anyway a couple of weeks later I go back to the recruiting station not by myself but with my Father and his CO, and the CO wants to know why the recruiter has been feeding me bs. So I enlisted, chose my MOS (Explosive Ordnance Disposal Specialist) and now I am waiting to go to basic at Fort Knox, I ship out May 30





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