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If the USA never joined the allied forces would the Germans have beat them?
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If the USA never joined the allied forces would the Germans have beat them?

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TAq
I know one thing an that's the uk had the intelligence side of things wrapped up until miscommunications or provoked necessity allowed certain key targets to be destroyed changing the type of war it was, thus dictating new measures. as a previous answerer suggested america's involvement helped greatly by casting shadows over the invading forces and psychologically overwhelming them. I'm not suggesting that america only played a 'presence role' though!

Please note that i'm not saying we would have been fine without the us but to say it was inevitable that the uk would be invaded is 100% erroneous. I suggest anyone who is interested, read about the endgame in an unbiased manor and look at it from as many aspects as you can. And let's not forget operation 'paper clip' a precursor of the manhattan project.


jamescdsimpson
No. The main reason for Germany's defeat was Russia's involvement. Although the war would have been longer and more difficult, it is very difficult to imagine a scenario in which Russia would not have eventually won the war, or forced a peace treaty


GunnyC
No the Russians would have beaten the Germans but would have taken longer; then Stalin would have occupied the rest of Europe and England would have been looking at Soviet controlled mainland instead of German. England did not have the means or manpower to do an amphibious assault and defeat the Germans-they could bomb and could fight off a German invasion but as far mainland Europe they could only harass but the Russians would have won but probably been late 1946 or 1947 before they did.


FuturePoliceOfficer
From a Canadian standpoint maybe but there are several factors:

1) Would the U.S. have joined the war if Canada and it's other allies were in DEEP trouble? Answer: most likely

2) Canada was running dry on resources and man power so the fresh troops and resources from U.S. did help ALLOT. I'd go as far to say that "your" help was a key factor in winning the war, so thank you Americans :P

3) Once U.S. joined the war Germany became completely demoralized because they knew that U.S. as stated above had fresh troops and resources.

I'm nowhere close to be an expert but this is what I remembered learning in grade 10 history class so please no need to flame if I'm wrong :P


connect9916
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No but I think a truce would have ended up between Britain and Germany as The Germans failed to invade the UK at the Battle of Britain [Before USA joining allies]

Russia however would have prob defeated Germany aned then prob moved on to take all of mainland europe.


poxeddemo
I don't think so. I think it obviously would have helped but there was other things that lead to their collapse. Fighting a war on almost all sides and then pushing into russia in the middle of winter, not to mention hitlers health was deteriorating and he was almost always kept under a heavy stream of amphetamines from his doctor. Towards the end his decisions were getting worse and worse tactically towards the end. I think they would have over stretched themselves and lost anyways or hitler would have made a poor tactical decision and because of that leave to many opening to be taken down


lemontreesp
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yes Britain could only hold out for so long and without America the Russian front would be a stalemate


Danny
I would say yes.. The U-Boats had England on the ropes.. England had no resources .. The convoys coming from the United States bringing oil , food , war machines etc..Saved them.. If we had not given them the old 4 stack destroyers to attack the U-Boats it would have been bad.. we were and still are an industrial empire..Germany had enough raw material from the countries they conquered plus the oil from Romania to have sustained them.. Russia was not that strong at the time because Stalin had purged his officer corps.. Hitler made two big mistakes.. He should have given Admiral Donitz the U-Boats he needed and never should have invaded Russia...


Yak Rider
No. If the USA had not been part of WWII in Europe the war would have ended in a stalemate. Once Hitler attacked Russia he insured his inability to win.


alexander m
the would have beat western europe. Russia would have went to a stand still like korea


Ron
If flys had machine guns, frogs would be endangered. . . . . . . . . . . . IF ?


dezmarrelda
YES! We are allies... USA & Germany
I am Half German born there!
Admit there is nothing to admit we are strong stubborn people!


Dude
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Yes, of course. They didn't win the war until we got involved. Of course some of the Europeans will never admit that.


Stanley
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Yes, Britain would have without a doubt been taken over by the Nazis sooner or later, The Russians also would have probably fallen, as the Nazis wouldn't have to take lots of its troops from the eastern front (Russia) to defend the western from from the British and Americans.

Britain had been fighting the Nazis alone for 3 years, although the Americans had been helping by selling it weapons, But Britain was very close to falling under Nazis Control many times, Before the Americans joined the war, Britain was just about to fall.

Had America not joined, The Nazis would have beaten the British and the Russians (probably, we cant be for sure)

By then, had the Nazis attacked America, America also would stand no chance against Nazi Germany, as its allys and the other world superpowers would have fallen under nazi control,

WW2 was a joined effort, ALL country's played there part, you'll find the more you learn about WW2, the more you will learn that no single country won the war. If it were not for all country's playing there part in fighting the Nazis, the allys would have lost.


Greg
no, we would have had to join eventually, then we'd crush them. the nazis would be to big of threat to take over the U.S. so we would have to join it. if we didnt they would probably make it to the U.S. then wed have to join obviously


Buck Ofama
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yes


Alec
In honesty the german invasion of russia crippled the germans hugely, they were starting to retreat back to germany. the Americans coming to europe did cause a lot of pressure on the germans. However if the Americans hadn't of come the germans would have forseen their defeat and made an alliance with britain to beat back the advancing communists.





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