If you support the war in Iraq, how long are you willing to occupy this country?
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If you support the war in Iraq, how long are you willing to occupy this country?
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I have supported this war from the beginning and I still believe we did the right thing removing Saddam from power, but I see no real evidence that the Iraqis are willing to fight for their own freedom enmasse and we cannot occupy this country idefinitely. So I am curious how long is long enough before even the supporters of the war are ready to leave the people of Iraq to stand or fall based on their own resolve? Additional Details To those who just couldn't resist a personal attack against me. Reread the question and try taking off the partisan blinders. I never took a position stating that we should not continue to fight, nor did I state that we should pull out immediately. I took no position that would indicate that I don't support the troops, or that I don't believe in their ability to complete the mission. It amuses me how some people cannot just answer the question asked without injecting negative speculation regarding unstated opinions, or the asker's motives.
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Overt Operative
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That's odd.
I never supported the Iraqi invasion. I believe it to be the biggest blunder in U.S. history.
But, I feel strongly that we need to stay, now that the deed is done, until law and order is reestablished. And to do so is going to take a much bigger commitment in troops than we have now.
Europe was once equally as volatile, if not more so, than the middle-east. Hostilities in Europe plunged the world into war time and again for centuries. That tendency toward constant war didn't end until the USA stationed 250,000 troops smack in the middle of Europe for 40 years.
If it takes 40 years or 100 years, we will need the same commitment in the middle-east. |
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Larry M
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lets see we occupied german/japan for what 50 years? |
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Looked Down and I was Smoking
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We are only there to keep IRAN out .We will stay untill they can keep Iran out . |
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Tom Jr
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We stay until the job is done. |
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"HKB"
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Until the vast majority of the country is willing to fight the terrorists themselves. By what I've been reading lately, the iraqi people are now realizing this and are starting to take action themselves. When they unite as a country and all realize that they can take care of this problem themselves, it'll be time to pull out. Otherwise terror will weaken even the strong willed and the country will fall to insurgency. |
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W W D
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I thought we went in too soon with the wrong force mix initially, so I'm not sure I qualify as a supporter, though I do think we should do our best since we're there.
Looking at past counter-insurgency operations like the Philippine insurrection, Haiti, Dominica, etc., they seem to take a decade or two (or three). And though Baghdad is a huge mess, and Mosul and Basra seem to flare periodically, I see the western Sunnis coming around as a major step forward, and I see little spots here and there that give reason for at least some optimism. They have whole battalions showing up this year that would have had a 50% no-show rate last year, so it's baby steps, and we're getting impatient, but there is progress. I think we in the US have just never been keen to learn our history, so we don't have a good perspective of comparing this to the examples I listed. If we (reasonably) expected to be less than halfway at this point, we might be less fed up. |
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patriot07
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we have been in iraq for four years now. this is the reality. if we are in it, we must be in it to win at any cost, no matter the length of time. anything else is unacceptable. americans must never cut and run. |
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Godly Reality Check
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Last I remember we've been fighting with Iraq for a while now. AT LEAST the past three presidents (counting GWB) had a problem with Iraq, so I am guessing a while. |
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Pfo
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You have a point. There comes a time when enough is enough, and after 4 years since Saddam was removed, I think we're approaching that time. If things haven't changed much in a year, I think it's time to consider leaving them with what they got. |
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chefsky2001
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you ahve posed one of the best worded questions. The iraqis are not helping our troops there they are not doing there job I feel that we stay til the job is done but on the other hand we need to say we have helped you and got no real support from your new government good bye. not a full pull out. that would open a flood gate of stuff. |
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arwenlotr2
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Is the liberal views making you lose your faith in America? I'm never going to stop supporting out troops. Fight for freedom or die trying, that's the way i see it. |
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Jester7.62
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we stay untill the browns win the superbowl, paris hilton gets a lipo and the muslims surrender. untill then, were in there to kick tail and hand out lolli pops and i dont think the army supplies those. |
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Boycott Hollywd Commies
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I think we have to hit the heart of the problem, Iran.
Iran is giving us good cause (and the Brit's) to level them. |
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George P
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Even if Iraq has a self supporting government, our military will still be there, maybe not as much as we are now, but we will still be there. The main reason is Osama Bin Laden, once we capture him, we will have to go after the next guy and the next guy after him.
Plus, we will probably invade Iran within the next 5 years, so why not keep bases in Iraq and that whole area. Its just a matter of time. If it does happen, I would expect the draft to be reinstated. |
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Joel B
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until the Muslim extremist are crushed under our Iron tracks |
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Scottso
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they are fighting for their freedom, u just dont know what freedom is |
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glib_wiseman
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I say divide it into sunni, shiite, and kurd provinces.
let them rule themselves, but we would have oversight regarding their oil proceeds.
http://truthortradition.com/ |
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Roadrunner58-79
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50 years or longer, until there are NO MORE
Al-Qa'eda terrorists anywhere in the MiddleEast or the entire world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Bob G
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We need to sit down with the Iraqi government and discuss the hand over. When they can do it and under what terms they can begin running their own country again. Then we need to hold them to it. We are not the world's police but we do need to finish up what we started. |
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Carpe diem
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The country is screwed, as soon as we leave the extremist's will take over.....Right back with a new improved more dangerous version of Saddam.... |
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Nick N
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Okay...I don't actually support the war! However, I do not believe that the United States can pull out troops now. It would be irresponsible, immature, and completely stupid. We put ourselves into this prediciment, it is our duty to finish it up. I have heard a lot of comparison about how the War in Iraq is very similar to the Vietnam conflict, however there are also major differences. During the Vietnam conflict, the Unites States was fighting against an idea, a political system, not a political party. In Iraq, we are fighting a culture, a way of life. Fundamentalist Islam has been around longer than the beginning of written history. Any religion or politcal belief has some form of fundalmentalism to it. Christains, Muslims, Conservatives, etc all have a sect of fundamentalists. But most importantly, fighting a culture is a never-ending war. You cannot change the way people believe, you can change what they public believe, but you will always have those who privately view otherwise.
Take the religion of Islam, the primary religion of Iraqi's. there are two sects: Sunnis, and Shiites. These two sects have been in socio-political conflict like liberals and conservatives, but for centuries longer. The fighting is mainly between these two sects. But when the United States got involved it began to protect only one side. Like in America,if you don't like the leader, you complain. It is an inevitable truth, if we (Americans) don't like what is put before us we complain. That is what the Sunnis and Shiites are doing. If they don't like what is going on, they complain. Although they use vioence as a persuassive technique. It is just something that happens.
So, do I believe that the United States shoud stay and continue its attempt to bring peace to Iraq, YES!! However, it is important to remember that if we stay in Iraq, we better be ready for a very long and bloody fight. Just some food to nibble on. |
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pjlisa13
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At least one more year and if they can not be trained bye then,then they are use less remember it only take the USA 8 months to train a good solder so I think 2 year is good enough for them. |
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lcmcpa
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The Iraqi people were better off before we butted in. Now they have no running water, no telephones, no electricity and no safety. What they do have is tens of thousands of dead men, women and children. Saddam was not our business. If the people wanted to oust him, it was their responsibility to do so, not ours. The whole world hates us now.
Notice we don't go bombing the hell out of China or North Korea. We only pick wars we THINK we can win. Looks like the Iraqi people fooled us, we will never win just as we never won in Vietnam. |
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JAY
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Evidently you dont believe in destroying the terriorists. Mass destruction of the USA does'nt seem to bother you. Is this your view. Some years back our satlelight picked up 8 MOBILE launchers. 5 were captured 1 was stripped 3 are still missing. Husanes son KILLED 5,000 KURDS in a week useing poison gas. recently a rumor that gas is being used again by ?.My belief is that our troops are in certain areas to stop the enemy from useing them. Iraq is rich in oil, If we pulled out then alquida will sell oil and build missles filled with poison gas to destroy all of the free world without leaveing their territories. Are you willing to condone this. Also the fact that we're trying to help their new government set up a democratic system. Alquida,the telebonn and the whole arab nation dont want this because of their ways of slavery.Women are sold to enrich the family. The democratic way does'nt allow slavery, includeing what women are stolen and are sold from the free world. Our world. |
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For as long as someone else has to die for their "freedoms".
You'll find the supporters pay good lipservice and do little else. |
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