Is it right for a Soldier to claim compensation - tax payers money - for being shot or blown up?
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Is it right for a Soldier to claim compensation - tax payers money - for being shot or blown up?
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If you join the Armed Forces - you will get shot at and bombed, If you join the Fire Service, you will get burnt, if you join the Police, you will get abuse.
These are all accepted and inherent dangers that come with the job - you choose to take the job on - you have to accept the risks that go with it.
So, why are we, the tax payer, paying tens of thousands of pounds of compensation to Soldiers, for example, that get shot!!!!?
They chose to be Soldiers - they knew the risks so dont come crying if you get hurt.
Views?? Additional Details Some people are saying 'fighting for us' please explain, pray, how interfering in iraq is for 'us'
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Arsie G
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Absolutely not. Also why do they get a pay rise while in a combat zone? Council tax rebate? They should all grow a pair, females aswell, and realise what they get paid for is what they signed up to do. Otherwise the whole country is gonna start looking at our armed forces like we look at those sailors who surrendered in tears to the Iranians. Pretty pathetic. |
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Your name here, cheap.
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Cause they earned it.
Mothers with kids on the dole, what about them, you didn't make the kids, why should tax payers pay for them. |
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Daniel F
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I think you lack the sense to come inside out of the rain, I am glad you are English and not American. If you are a policeman, fireman or in the service. They will get compensation ( for duty related) injuries from their government for their service to their country. A job , that sounds like you are not man enough to do. |
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Ding dong, I'm Sparticus 2.
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In a fairer world they wouldn't have to seek compensation as the state they have served should be honourable enough to secure their future.
Edit. Those who serve their country (for whatever reasons) do not decide who to fight against. |
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greylady
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They are still protecting you. Don't you think it's worth giving them something to help them when they have helped you? It's like you shouldn't get disability if you get hurt on the job by the way you're thinking.
I just noticed you said pounds. I hope you don't mind an American view. |
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Well, said Alberto
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I've not heard of a soldier getting compo for getting hurt.
For what its worth I think we, as taxpayers, have to come up with the cash to take care of servicemen / policemen / firemen injured in their line of duty. Yes, they knew there were risks: but they were also entitled to believe they would be taken care of if it came to it. |
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Tendangansakti
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If you become a street cleaner and a passer-by throws a brick at you, are you entitled to compensation? Yes. And it's written into most soldier's contracts that they are entitled to compensation should they be injured. So stop complaining about the people sacrificing their limbs and lives for your freedom, and maybe have the balls to do some military service for your country. (In case you're asking, I've done my time already). |
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mike h
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First of all, I will comment on your cowardly statement about troops fighting in Iraq. It is your patriotic duty to support British troops fighting anywhere, if you don't like the politics, go have it out with the government.
Secondly, as an ex soldier I know all about serving your country in combat.
I can speak for the majority of soldiers here (particularly combat troops) when I say we fully accept and expect the consequences of us going into a combat zone. We are trained for it, want it, and accept the risks.
The problem is if this does happen, we don't want compo, but we expect to be cared for and our wounds treated.
This is the governments and the country's responsibility and duty, just as it is our responsibility and duty to fight, protect and die for this country if necessary. And yes, that even includes cowards like you who snipe from the sidelines.
This is not happening. If we are injured we are thrown on the scrapheap by this government and I have known good men be forced back into civvy life and treatment in a woefully unprepared NHS. You CANNOT treat a combat soldier with civilians, their needs are different and it's wrong.
So what is happening is people are starting to get sick of this country not living up to its duty and saying bollox to you then, I'll get what I can and you can go and rot. And I don't blame them. |
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D B
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I agree that they should not ask. It should be given without question for all individual injuries. |
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one shot
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Is it right for an habitual criminal to receive compensation because the colour television in his cell block doesn't work????
I know which one I would rather see get it. |
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Denise S
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Why should someone who works at a grocery store get to collect worker's comp and then disability, if that's your logic? People join the military knowing what the benefits are. One of the many benefits of military service is knowing that if you're injured, there's a net.
If a cop gets shot in the line of duty, should he get disability?
If I ride horses and I get thrown off, should my insurance not pay the claim since I decided to ride the horse?
What a ridiculous logical fallacy. |
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Gunner Reah
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Do you think we should sue the enemy then? When we sign up part of the deal is that the Army will look after you if you are injured and can no longer serve. We also get a really good pension after we leave. So would a fireman and a copper.
How about we discuss this is person? If you got hurt I'm sure you would take it like a man. Oh I forgot, I doubt you've got the balls to do it. It is very brave of you to gob off on the Internet though. Much braver than me and my mates. |
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ArmyWifey
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If you consider insurance compensation then shouldn't everyone give their's up? If you are talking about hazardous duty pay then all companies who work in dangerous situations should stop paying that as well.
All jobs have some form of compensation. I think you should research a little deeper on the subject and what the military actually gets paid, etc. |
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LadyMoonlight!!
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Not sure really.
I mean they earned it.
There are plenty of scroungers claiming tax payers' money without ever doing a damn thing for this country. And if that soldier will never be able to work again, to support his family etc, then yes he should be compensated.
But I do agree that in a way its a hazard of the job. |
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Reagan '12
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Because they are fighting for your freedom and/or keeping terrorists from killing your fellow citizens on your own soil. Don't forget, they also chose to fight for your country so people like yourselves can live normal lives. Don't you think your tax dollars are worth freedom and safety? |
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terriann m
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y shouldn't they get a pay out they put money into national insurance too. |
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dadseimaj
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My view is that you are talking utter crap.
These guys who are going through the mill every day are doing so to ensure your right to say such drivel without fear of retribution. The fact that they are doing it in a middle eastern country is inconsequential.
Just suppose, for one second that every time you went to your car you had to check for bombs under it or you had to look up for possible snipers? A bit like these guys have to do every day. What song would you be singing then?
Pay up and shut up
Or maybe you just have a problem with folks who are better than you. Which would be.... Let me see... EVERYBODY! |
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Esmerelda
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I hope you don't really mean this. The pay scale of your average enlisted person is so crappy half of them can't pay for decent family housing. Being taken care of if or when they are hurt in the line of duty is part of the meager fringe benefits of the job. If you were disabled on your job I'm sure you'd be expecting compensation.
These folks deserve way more than we give them. At least they were willing to put their lives on the line for us. That alone is worth way more than we pay them! |
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Robin
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You live in your country and doesn't know what happend
outside of your country.
Do you remeber WWII?
Our soldiers go to dangerous place because of so many
events happend outside of your country.
We must protect our country inside and outside and prevent all posible situations.
Compensation for every soldier is legal act and
allow us to save money. How?
Simple example:
10 soldier went to dangerous place.
Salary for one soldier is for e.g. $3,000 per month.
After one month 1 soldier got shot and took compensation
$50,000.
After one month all soldiers went home.
All money is 3,000x10+50,000=80,000.
Real salary for each soldier without compensation will be
not less $10,000 per month or more.
10,000x10=100,000 more than 80,000
This is just example. And compensation works like insurance.
You pay for insurance $1000 per year for car and if something
happen you'll get from insurance company $3000 for damages. |
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valf
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widgit stop being a pillock.....If your going to ask a question ask something sensible.....My son is a corporal in the Army and i can assure you he is not any of the things you have alleged he is.......They were mobilised by this government, they have no choice where they are sent.......and they have represented this country in the most professional way....There pay is rubbish, they are charged accommodation and that and the food is poor.......there uniforms are crap to the extent that most soldiers purchase better items for themselves from their own pay.......So while you are sitting at home being judgemental my son has completed his tours of Iraq,Afghanistan etc etc and a number of tours of Ireland.....What have you done for this country apart from bleating and winging.......I am proud of my son as he has dedicated his life to the army to protect and to serve even judgemental spineless creeps like you........And as to the issue of being gay i would like to see you say it to his face ....lol I don't think so |
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jamand
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Two sides to the story - sign up to fight - YES - but what has this government done (and previous governments) - they have sent our troops off to wars we have no right to be involved in (my opinion) without the correct equipment or with equipment that does not work.
Therefore, the government is neglectful of the consequences of such actions and is left open to pay compensation - nature of the beast I'm afraid. |
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Paul S
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i only think soldier should get compo if it was found that the higher ranks were at fault and it should come out of the MOD's budget. take for example all the friendly fire incidents we have had recently, victims families and the ones who survive should be able to claim.
but if they were shot as part of an operation or lost a limb etc... in combat, then well, tough really. they wanted to join up, they know the risks involved, it would be like me going skiing knowing full well I could break a leg, If i did I couldnt sue the ski resort for it as I accepted the risks.
whilst I appreciate what the boys and gals do for this country and commend the dedication and danger they put themselves through, not just for our country but for others too, I do feel sorry for the loss a family has to suffer when a soldier gets killed as they are all humans and want the same thing as everyone else, wife / hubby kids etc..
I think those who are unable to return to active duty as a result of injury should have better support in finding work or being cared for, or even another postion within the army., they should not be allowed to make a claim for compo because the were injured by the enemy.
the main thing to remember is that for generations the world has been at war in one place or another and many people have died. its parts and parcel of it im afraid and that we should respect and look after our soldiers when they join the forces, during the time served and after they leave. |
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andy
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if you lose an arm walking down the street as a citizen you can get a few thousand £ compo of the government. i know what your saying.
i think the point is why are the soldiers there in the first place?
they should only go places when its important for our security, not on random missions forcing people around the world to be free. |
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Simon D
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No. If you can't accept the consequences of being a professional soldier you shouldn't CHOOSE to become a professional soldier. (A soldier's lot is to suffer for their country; it isn't forced on them - they make that choice: there is no conscription in the United Kingdom.) Being a soldier isn't like being an electrician, or a fork lift truck driver, or that chick what slips on a glistening wet floor because she wasn't looking where she was going. A theatre of war is one of the most dynamic environments you may find yourself in, and being maimed or killed by an enemy combatant is not the same as negligence on the part of an employer. Therefore the military shouldn't be liable.
HOWEVER, we should ensure that professional soldiers are given everything THEY FEEL they need to adequately perform their role. And that they are given every benefit of the state when they are maimed during times of conflict (which is pretty much all the time these days, courtesy of globalisation and the military industrial complex). |
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Annie M
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I didnt know they received compensation. I agree they knew the risks. |
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