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Is the American Army Stupid?

read this link, i could not believe it when i read this.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1517327,00.html


    




massadaman
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That's nothing new. I was in Gulf War I and we had to have Union Jacks, the bigger the better, flying off our vehicles to identify ourselves as British. Even that didn't stop a USAF A-10 taking out a load of our infantry lads who were flying flags off their APCs. We hated working with the Yanks. Too trigger-happy.


jb
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No they are not stupid,
my late uncle was a commando in world war 2 and he told me that in world war 2 that some American soldiers he served with where a bit trigger happy and they would shoot anything and everything.
But having said that all armies under fire can make mistakes and the British army is no exception they have shot at their own soldiers too,The Falklands war springs to mind.


paki
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unless you have been in combat, it is sometimes hard to tell friend vs foe, this kind of thing has happened in most every war in the last 100 years and not just americans that have trouble identifying friend vs foe


crazyhorse19682003
If you haven't spent time in a combat zone that you need to shut your pie hole because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Living in a state of constant high alert and wondering if today is the day you die will make anyone jumpy. When things go down on the battlefield you have a split second to react or you could be dead. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.

US Army vet 87-95 Desert Storm Vet


The Tin Man
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based off of a two year old article where US troops engaged a car speeding towards a check point and did not stop?

It would be ignorance NOT to fire.

US troops engaged Brits in Desert Storm over "killox" issues. If you're inside an authorized "killbox" used by US aircraft, it doesn't matter. Game over.


proud_airborne_mom
You don't want answers to your question. You are stating your opinion and looking for people to agree with you.

We haven't had to fight a global war on our own soil (with the exception of Pearl Harbor.) I thank our armed forces for that.


dadacoolone
As an American who supports our troops I must be careful what
i write not to insult..If you remember John Kerry's remarks on education there was actually much truth in it but as you probably know we Americans find truth hard to accept...what I could say is this ...look at the average age of an American soldier in Iraq and you can tell their education level.. I am not shocked by what I read!
In fact I am of the opinion that A great many could not point to Great Britain on a world map !


Philip L
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The American forces are under constant attack as opposed to UK forces that occupy largely quiet sectors. So if they are a little trigger happy it is somewhat understandable.


James M
Ok, so i read the article. It said that the majority of the incidents occur at night, but it has happened in the day as well. I would ask you, have you been in a combat situation? Have you ever been mortared, or hit by an ied? Have you every been in iraq, in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night, when you can barely see 10 feet in front of you? I'm going to assume that the answer would be no. Well, i have, and i have served with the british, and actually have heard of only a few instances of this actually occurring, but it does happen in combat, sad but true. So, do not for a minute assume that you have any credible reason to ask this question. And to the rest who think all soldiers are stupid, i would remind you that if you only read the newspapers and watch CNN, MSNBC or FOX news, you are not getting the whole truth, they twist the news anyway they want. I guess my masters degree from the university of pennsylvania is null and void since i joined the army. Not all soldiers have college, but how dare you call volunteer service members of this country stupid, any of you.


SGT. D
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The Brits are putting great big red X's on their vehicles and you're calling US stupid?


Andrew
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they are only doing the same things that you guys did for 400 years from the 1500's to 1900's


robert x
Its not the armies fault! - the trigger happy grunts fire on anyone before they think!.. it comes from being under constant attack from insurgents forces,


?
You know I was going to say something because of the anger I felt from what some of you hate filled fuks have said. Then I figured what for, they will be living under Sharia law in less than 10 years .LMFAO!


CuriousE
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Try identifying and deciding whether to pull the trigger or not in a hostile environment where one second of hesitation decides whether you are going to be alive or dead 3 seconds later.


armywifebridges@sbcglobal.net
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No they are not my husband is in the army and he just joint at the age of 25 and is very smart. And Kerry was very wrong for what he said. If you just sit down and talk to some of the solider you will see that they are some of the smartest people. And if you don't support the troops then why live here they fight for you to be safe and some die for that. And they have family's that will have to go through alot just so that you can be safe.


janice h
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You are disrespectful of the American military. Which is just what I would expect from someone who reads the New York Times. Why don't you go live in a country where there is no military to protect your fat a**.


driverfus
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i cant belive you asked that question i was in the army uk and i wa in the gulf war 1, and other tours in other countrys, that i wont say and cant say. why dont you sign up ya muppit, your a waste of c rats.you probably couldent hack it through basic


Geronimo
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I have a few questions as well.

Is the British Army Stupid?

If the American Army is stupid for blue on blue against the British, what does it make the British when they blue on blue themselves?

War is chaotic. Friendly fire will happen, regardless of country of origin. If you've never served and never been in combat I guess that would explain the ignorance I'm seeing in many of the above answers.

Both British and American forces do their best to mitigate any kind of blue on blue action. The simple truth is that in the nightmare of combat operations, you sometimes only have a fraction of a second to make a decision that will seriously affect the outcome of a mission and other peoples lives.

Hindsight is always 20/20.


Super Leaders International
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The American Army is NOT stupid. You can't understand the Military until you are a soldier.


dsclimb1
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Its all down to their training. Shoot first, anyone is the threat to the US etc.. think later.

Part of the problem is that they are not trained sufficiently to give them time to make decision, but just to fire.

Sadly, thats why it has gone so wrong for the US, same as in other countries previously, they think that fire power alone wins wars!!


abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
Blame John Kerry and the liberals. It's all their fault. Always.

Republicans = Medal of Honor heroes

Democrats = treasonous traitors


woznotwoz
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I would say 'Stupid' in a very unfortunate term to use.
'Very nervous' would be better. I do think however that there have been far too many incidents of this nature. There has been many other incidents such of a British jet fighter being shot down at the beginning of the war.
If I remember rightly the only British forces killed in the first Gulf War were all killed by US forces.

When in war it sometimes is very difficult to decide whether to shoot or not. Just think if you leave it too late it could be you being shot at.


christeehbeeh
In my opinion the American Army is the smartest they deserve a SALUTE.


♥haggisbasher♥
Yes, this is nothing new, inthe Gulf war they lost more of their own men to friendly fire than to the enemy. Fact.


Chadders
Sad but true


RRM
Yes. Their 'strategy' is simply to blow up or gun down everything in sight.


JJ88
Yes even the American Politicians think so.
Trigger happy... shoot - whoops - ask questions later.
If you're thick and a no have no hope - join the America army, so they say...


funnelweb
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Its a top down thing, think how much brain power Bush has. If you apply the idea that the intelligence in an organisation such as the army is higher at the top and lower at the bottom, where does that leave the US troops? They must have have had a hard time finding people stupid enough to fit the bill.


terry w
yes!!!


ian r
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Yes. They are indeed.

Im not surprised at all that the US soldiers do not know what the British flag looks like!

Its not exactly the first time the US troops have killed their allies in the UK army. They have done it in every conflict in the Gulf and in Afghanistan.

They are a little to trigger happy:-

"A British officer in Basra said: “The Americans can be pretty pumped-up. Sometimes they fire in broad daylight when we are travelling at two miles per hour, shouting that we are British out of the window and waving the Union Jack. If they shoot, our drill is to slam on the brakes and race in the opposite direction.”"



Interesting article from the Times Newspaper (UK) (Newyork times? - typical American )





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