Ok fellow "Marines", we are told that everything a drill instructor do is for a "reason"..for what reason.....
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Ok fellow "Marines", we are told that everything a drill instructor do is for a "reason"..for what reason.....
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during second phase during field training, did a drill instructor repeatedly throw a recruits helmet over a fence and having him repeatedly retrieving it like a dog? is that something the air force or navy would do? i doubt it. how do this "exercise" makes for a better fighting man?? another question, if YOUR son was in Marine boot camp, and he done something wrong and the drill instructor kicked him in the butt, would u be mad at the drill instructor?
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grips
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I checked your profile (and everyone else can just by clicking on your icon). Let's see earlier today you asked how to convince your parents that joining the Marines would be the best thing that happened to you. Last week you told us about a drill instructor assaulting you. Again last week you told us about pulling fire watch on the USS Guadacanal.
Buddy, why don't you just join the Marines and really find out what the whole thing is about and quit wasting our time with your childish games. |
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Harley
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There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.
Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army.
Who cares what the Air Force or Navy do in their boot camp. Marines are in Marine Boot Camp. If they can't handle something like that, I sure wouldn't want to be in combat with them.
By the way, I seriously doubt we are fellow Marines. |
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steph
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Well if he did something wrong he probably deserved the kick in the butt. if your son really wants to become a Marine i mean really believe that it is his calling he will take the good and the bad. |
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dude34420
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awwwwwwww want some tissue? |
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Melissa A
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First of all, if you are a Marine, you are the biggest baby!
Secons of all, in bootcamp, the military training insturctors JOB is to break you down and build you up into a MARINE! The recruit probably wasn't getting it ! |
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Chief Yellow Horse
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I don't know, but he should kick your butt until you learn good grammar. |
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hugahugababy
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Why don't you join the Marines and find out. |
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maggi r
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Get over it! It doesnt matter if you are mad at the drill instructor. You cant do anything about it. Perhaps he threw the marine's helmet over a fence to teach him to always keep his helmet on...who knows...we can guess all day. Be mad, but our armed forces and those who shape our young soldiers deserve respect. |
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conranger1
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The purpose of the lesson was to teach the recruit to obey without question or thought, in the middle of a firefight there is no time for thought only to react to the orders given.
No I would be mad at my kid for doing something stupid to reguire a kick in the butt.
These people are charged with training your kids the best way they no how, so they can fight and survive and hopefully by doing that your kid gets to come home alive instead of in a body-bad.
Semper Fi! |
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Hippy Chic
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A Drill Instructor's job is to turn an unexperienced person into the world's elite. It is their job to build a fighting machine in 3 months...to do that you must break a person down and build them up to the highest standards...it's an amazing transformation! The DI was teaching a lot of things: discipline, quick thinking, safety (you never relinquish your helmet or your rifle...both will save your life!), and following orders. Look past the "poor me" bit for a minute and realize that these Marines have a hard job and a little amount of time to do it in.
And chances are if he did something wrong a kick in the butt was deserved. Better a small kick in the butt during peacetime than a bullet in the head during war.
It's a proud thing to be a Marine. If your son embraces his experience rather than complain about it, he'll enjoy it a lot more...there is a lot to learn from.
-Once a Marine, always a Marine 2000-2006 |
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J S
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It says "don't be a screwup" to the recruit, did you not learn your lesson??? |
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jonah
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He did it to teach him how to put up with mental stress. and no I would'nt be mad. |
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George P
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Its discipline. maybe the trainee forgot his helmet or the helmet fell off during training. This should have been something the trainee should have been aware of, and should have paid attention to.
Since I haven't been to basic in a very long time, I am not sure what they do in basic for the Air Force anymore, however, if an Air Force trainee would lose his helmet, I am sure an TI would do the same thing, or something similar. The thing is, in the Marine Corp, the Marine is a fighter. What he carries on his back into battle is his/her life. In the Air Force, we aren't carrying packs and stuff with us everywhere we go, we are more in the rear with the gear. Even though more of us are going with the Army on convoys. The DI might have been trying to teach the young Marine on how important it is to have his helmet on and I bet you, that Marine won't ever forget the lessong his DI was teaching him.
Knowing how the military is, I wouldn't be upset at the DI, he was training the young Marine and he was doing his job. If anything, I would thank the DI for making my son into a better person. |
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Judge Dredd
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(1) The recruit more than likely took his helmet off when he wasn't supposed or left it somewhere. A pointless exercise that will most undoubtably leave an impression on the recruit will not forget his helmet again.
(2) Comparing Marine Corp Boot to the Navy and Air Force is pointless. Especially since neither branch issues helmets. I think they issue fold up lounge chairs instead. (joke)
(3) If you were my kid I would never have a chance to get mad at a drill instructor because I would be to busy kicking you in the butt. |
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ICYCUBE
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It's not about teaching them to be a "fighter", it's about teaching them endurance. If they are put through hard times for months, when they reach the field they will be already used to it, and prepared to take the hard time. It's all about preparing them for hard times. If you work hard all day, then the next day all you do is sweep, you will not complain about the sweeping, right? Same concept, only this time it involves "life" and "death". The drill instructors are only attempting to keep the recruits alive. Believe me, you will thank them greatly in the future. |
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Amer-I-Can
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If the maggot deserved to be chasin' the helmet, the DI gave him plenty of practice.... it's a Marine thing, you wouldn't understand.
As for the kick in the butt... any 'cruit that gets kicked in the butt better be man/woman enough to take it... they will see a lot worse in the real world. |
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Just Me
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As for the helmet, if the Marine TI was anything like my AF TI, the poor trainee was either wearing it wrong or not wearing it at all. In basic out in the fild, if you forgot your helmet, your gas mask, or, worse yet, your rifle, you were pretty much screwed. We had one guy who forgot both his helmet and his mask, and he TI's had him in the assembly area sprinting from one to the other for a good ten minutes. Pointless exercise? No. Neither he nor any of the rest of us forgot any of our gear again. If he got kicked in the rear I see no problem with it, other than him getting off too lightly for whatever he did. |
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mikehunt29
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Go see "A Few Good Men." Pay attention to the scene when Jack Nicholson is on the stand and says something about "...questioning the manner in which (freedom/safety?-I can't remember the exact words) it is provided." |
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soulflower
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Beaujock, I struggle to understand your hatred for the Corps.
My brother, 2 uncles, and 4 cousins were all in it or still are and I have heard none of this vitriol from them.
And didn't your parents or family ever tell you to do something for a reason and you didn't know why? You learned to TRUST and OBEY them. And in the end you learned that if you listen to the people who know things you are just better off in general...? Maybe those are the REASONS
They seem to have a very good success rate.
Just because YOU don't know what the reasons are doesn't mean they don't... |
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Jerbson
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You think that's bad? That actually pretty funny. Trust me I went to Paris Island in 2001 so things have changed but that's nothing. I won't give any of the games we played away but if you've been to PI remember feeding the sand fleas? I'm still scratching. |
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Moon Doggy
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It's to mentally prepare them. Worse happens in the battlefields and the Marines are suppose to be the elite when it comes to war combat.
I'm in the Guard and I went to my first drill last week and my sergeant was yelling homophobic slurs,calling us retards, and making us do push-ups even if we were having dizzy spells.It was scary at the time but now I understand that he was trying to make us deal with pressure the right way. |
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gopher_baroque
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Sign up with a crew of meatheads and you'll get treated accordingly. |
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BrigadeGeneral
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Yeah. they must be very intelligent ppl.....forced to behave like dogs.......weird. |
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