Stop-loss??

The_Crow

It means they are calling you back up for another tour of duty just when you think you are getting out (i.e. usually because of some fine print in your contract).

It's called a stop-loss because they can't recruit enough new people to replace you on the battlefield. So they put you back in.

Daz.

Stop-loss, in the United States military, is the involuntary extension of a service member's enlistment contract in order to retain them beyond the normal end term of service (ETS) or the ceasing of a permanent change of station (PCS) move for a member still in military service. It was first significantly used just before and during the first Persian Gulf War. Since then, it has been used during American military deployments to Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia and Kosovo during the 1990s, after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks with the War on Terror, and with the military action in Iraq.

Federal courts have consistently found that military service members contractually agree that their term of service may be involuntarily extended.

jackson

Pay attention to what Holbrook said. The movie is Bull Pucky and a lie.

Everybody in the military knows that when do your 4 years or whatever you are still in something called the IRR for a years after that. Meaning that you don't have report but you can be called up at anytime.

But what many people don't realize is that there is some super, super fine print. I have been in forever but I saw it in action with one of my pals.

He was stationed on the east coast and retired out after 24 years. He sold his house, moved to the west coast and purchased another. He got called up and was sent back to the east coast. Granted he has a very specialized job and this almost never happens but it can happen.

And the person who said that stoploss is all about the military not being able to recruit people. Recruitment is actually UP across the board. And it is not the poor, oppressed and down trodden minorities. The solid middle class is. And the biggest demographic (not all) are white and from the south and the midwest. It is part of my job to know such things.

Holbrook

Tucker is right...but they do not Stop Loss one person...they Stop Loss entire MOSs and the smallest they do is a Brigade...a Stop Loss is done so that the Department doing it (i.e. Department of the Army) is so they can see how many people they actually have and where they are, so they can make moves to fill other units...what most people don't know, and the people who wrote the movie don't tell you, is that if you have already done 8 years they can not keep you in...so if you got 8 years and want to ETS they will ETS you...if you got 20 years and want to Retire, they will Retire you...a Stop Loss is for Soldiers that have under 8 years of service...because no matter how long you sign up for in Active Duty, you have to do 8 years...either Active, Reserve, National Guard, or Inactive Ready Reserve...it is so they do not have to call you back from IRR...there has only been one Stop Loss for this War and it was back in 03 and 04...and it was mainly for Intel Soldiers and a few others...my MOS was Stop Lossed but I had just Reenlisted and I had 12 years in, so it did not matter to me...Like Tucker said a Stop Loss is not a new thing...just Hollywood making a movie about a Deserter they are saying is a hero...the movie is factually incorrect, it is Propaganda for the wackos in Hollywood, just like "Redacted"...

Rick

Stop Loss is NOT only for those initial term soldiers who haven't completed their 8 year term, its for EVERYONE. If you've done 10 yrs in the military and want to get out and your unit comes down on deployments orders to OIF/OEF, you're getting Stop Loss'd. E-1 thru E-9 will all deploy with the unit and all ETSing will get involuntarily extended and all PCSing will no longer go to their destination. Is it fair to say those who signed for 3-4 yrs and have gotten out yet other try and do the same and get hit for another 15 months. Its one thing when you like it and want to be here but when you have absolutey no choice and tried to let your chain of command know how you feel... its injustice. Don't give me this 8 year commitment BS....

textmistress

When you enlist, you owe the military 8 years no matter what. That means you can serve all 8 and be done, or serve 4 and be in the inactive reserves from which they can recall (stop-loss) your little hiney at any point in time. My husband is enlisted and originially enlisted for 5 years. He chose to reenlist for 3 so we wouldn't have to worry about him being recalled. When you enlist, you know it is for 8 years. They tell you that. Anyone who says they don't didn't read their contract or listen.

axsooted

stop loss= back door draft

hey john, i am USMC also and i dont recall it being "clearly explained to me" until i was about 2 years into the active portion of my contract. and i do remember when it was "clearly explained" to my whole company and there were alot of guys just like me.

John S

it states in your contract for active duty that you will serve 4 years active and 4 years inactive during which you can be recalled into active duty if the need for your service arises.
this is very clearly explained when you sign the contract, so people who complain about it knew it was a possibility when they enlisted.

crop13b

It means that your unit has made it so that no one can get out of the unit for an undetermined amount of time. That means you can't transfer to another unit, branch of military, or ETS until the stop loss has been lifted...hmm sort of like what its called, a stop of loss in personnel strength. If your in the National Guard or Reserves it doesn't nessacarilly mean you'll be put on active duty orders.

**You must be kidding**

I do know they can stop-loss entire states in the guard. If your state is low on manning, they can choose to not allow to separate you when your contract is over. Stop-loss is different than the IRR (Individual Ready Reserve), stop-loss occurs immediately at the end of your contract, when you are trying to leave. It doesn't mean you immediately have to deploy, it means your unit is low on manning and can't afford to lose you. When the stop-loss for your job, mos, afsc, state, whatever they are using; is over, away you go. And you still are required to fufill your time in the IRR. I know my contract CLEARLY states this and it even states in black and white my date of release of obligation from the IRR. Stop-loss not only affects those in 4 yr contracts, those of us in 6 year contracts have to deal with it too. It's a temporary issue, but if you read your contract prior to signing (just like you do with a house or a car) it's in there. If you choose not to read it, or not to ask questions; you get surprised. I don't understand this new movie. Glamorizing people who failed to read their contracts. Exactly the portrayal the military needs. It's ridiculous. Anyone who feeds into that bologna deserves to be shaken briskly to come back to reality.
My favorite is on the trailer for that movie when the guy makes the statement "I fufilled my end of the contract, why can't the army fufill theirs.." cracks me up. It's in your contract goofy..go home and read it!!!!

Just me

IT'S NOT FINE PRINT!!! It's black and white, and the contract says very clearly that you are signing up for 8 years and also if your job is critical and they need you, they can keep you.

Stop loss is when your career field is critically manned (not enough people) and they need you to stay in even if you're due to get out.

It's not a surprise, and a whole branch does not get stop lossed. Seems like the whole freakin' army now claims they've been stop-lossed since this movie has come out. Only certain career fields have been stop-lossed (and in all branches!!!)

You know before hand, rumors fly way before it's implemented. And you know if your career field is one that would be stop-lossed. I was in security forces and we always knew before hand if SF would be stop lossed, you don't find out when you're going in to sign the papers to get out (as in the preview) and the guy who does your out processing is not the guy who gives you orders to Iraq. I got out 7 months before my career field was stop lossed and they did not call people back, just kept the ones that were due to get out after the stop loss took place. My husband reenlisted, he knew he was making a career of it.

The movie is just that, a movie, not real life.

Sorry just wanted to get that out there.

VBnewbieANDherHubby

if you are close to getting out of the military they will stop loss you to go to war with them and once your tour is over with you come back and out process, but what they dont tell you is that you get paid extra money while you are stop lossed well they did at the beginning of the war it was 1000 dollars extra a month.

bballgirl94

It means when you're put back into service after you already finished your time. It happens because the US doesn't have that many soldiers to replace you on the battle field.

Thegoodgirl

that instead of remaining in the IRR..or done with your orders. you are being reactivated to go back overseas.

Johnny U

in terms of the stock market it means sell at a pre-set price if the stock is heading down to prevent further loss. i imagine with this movie it's about limited the body count.

sounds pretty anti-war, and rolling stone raves about it , so its probably one of these left wing protest movies.

i'll pass.

$$V-G$$

maybe to regret something, or to stop losing something?

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