Unmarried couple in base housing?
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Unmarried couple in base housing?
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It has come to my attention that the parents of my daughter's friend are not actually married. While I have no issue with it personally, they are currently living in base housing. They do have a child together , and both have children from previous relationships in the home. I have found out, however, that the husband is still married to his first wife. The woman of the house and her daughter are living on base, both without military ID's and his command seems to know. Normally I would not mind, but housing on this base is at a premium and I know many families struggling to live on the economy in one of the most exepensive areas of the country. Should I alert the base housing office to the situation or leave well enough alone? Additional Details The military member is seperated from his spouse, but they opted not to divorce (and this is several years old) so she chould keep her health benefits. The woman of the house is on state subsidized medical care for herself and her daughter and is recieveing food stamps as well. If they were removed from housing, she and her children would simply move in with her parents (has said as much).
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gunplumber_462
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Report it immediately to housing and to whatever criminal investigative organization you have there (which branch is this anyway?). The kind of stuff you are aware of this "family" doing is usually just the tip of the iceberg. The member's obvious lack of integrity indicates he can't be much of an asset to his unit. Time to get it out in the open and get it fixed. |
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snipeswife
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I would report it. Do you know how many people are waiting for on-post housing? |
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jollyactor
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You should absolutely notify them, due in large part because of what you said about a short supply of housing on base. |
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bibliophile31
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Well, it's your daughter's friend involved, right? What will happen to HER if you speak up?
Sounds like a situation off of Jerry Springer. I'd stay out of it, if I were you. |
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MP US Army
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This is why my wife and I will NEVER live on post.
Yes, it is a violation of regulations for anyone but the service member and dependents to live at the house.
But if they got BAH and lived off post anyone they wanted could live in the house.
Personally I don't think there should be any such regulations.
I also think that married and single should get paid the same.
I would leave it alone.
If you report them they will be forced to have the Non dependents move out, and then they will keep the housing for just the service member and the dependent child, the others will be on the street.
I had a friend who had is brother stay with him and his wife in on post housing for the summer when he was out of college. Someone turned them in and the brother was escorted off post and and the my friend still lived there, but he hated the lady who reported him after that. |
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amanda t
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Leave well enough alone. It's hard enough to be a split up or remarried family and they're doing their best to make things work. I doubt this is the only family doing this. |
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D. M.
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There is a HOTLINE for fraud,waste, & abuse!
give them a call!
Why should they live in government quarters if they are not eligible! Fraud! |
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Jeremy J
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Notify base housing.....Is the woman of the house married too? I'm a little lost on how that all worked out, because if this guy is still married then his wife would be living with him or does he have two houses? More details please. |
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kleighs mommy
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you can report this to base housing but be prepared to be told its not your business. and its not. but you should have your spouse go and report it, comes off better from the active duty service member. this is a big no no. he qualifies for housing he he has custody of his kids but he is not permitted to move anyone in that is not married to him or born to him and his wife. having a girlfriend while married is also a big no no |
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Debbie G
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I have a hard time believing his commander knows about this and if his commander really does know then there's probably something about this arrangement you aren't aware of. Plus, how are they getting off and on base without ID? You can only get a visitor's pass for so long.
If your source is your daughter then I wouldn't certainly get facts straight before reporting them to Housing. |
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♥ missing a soldier in Iraq ♥
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are you kidding me with this question. its none of your business. why would you want to cause trouble for them? me and my fiance live together(off base) but it doesnt mean cause we arnt married that we arnt a unit. thats is his family unit and you want to break them up? if his chain of command knows and they are ok with it what is it any of your concern? you seem like a nosy neighbor....you need to get a life. |
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AFwife
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I would tell the housing office, i know what it feels like to have to wait months and months for housing on base, and this guy is shacking up with a woman who's obviously not good enough to be married too, i know that sounds blunt, but it just ticks me off when people take advantage like that |
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Keisha
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Wow alot of people with alot of opinions ..hmm.. i would agree with several of them. some make good points some make other good points. but to me what it boils down to is .. HMM.. this is not your family i would put my focus on my family and i mean yeah if it ever comes up then you can say what you feel if asked but i wouldnt go out my way to try to make a difference, i bet if you look into 5 dif families out of 10 then they are doing things they arent suppose to do. Dont say anything just let them get what is coming to them because if they are doing wrong they will get caught and then you can say see i knew it ... but let well enough alone because to me you seem like a great lady and you have a concience what if you make a decision and then something happens to the kids or to the lady that would be on your mind. In life there is to many people everyday trying and prying and snooping just to point and say hey look what he is doing look what she is doing. instead take care of you and yours if it is something directly effecting your kids then that is different but this situation seems like it will unwide itself...I mean think you might not even have all the details correct so.. let it go.... Enjoy life its to short as it is. Dont put your mind to focus on things that are not directly effecting you or your children.
Hope this helps
KEisha |
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sugarBear
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It sounds like you are paying more attention to other peoples lives then your own. Do you really even know if this is all actually true? or you are just hearing it word of mouth? from other gossipers like yourself? I believe so & you have no proof. You choose whatever you want to do with this, but know that you complaining & reporting them is going to wreck their home, their kids will be in a bad position. Do you really want to do this to their family? Why don't you leave it up to his Command to do something about it? it's really none of your business. FOCUS ON YOUR OWN LIFE & your own kids, your own husband. Don't gossip & leave other families alone. If they are in a bad position, let them figure things out on their own, let them get caught on their own. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. |
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SgtRWMartin
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Maybe you should search deep within yourself- while, yes, the SM (service member) is wrong for what is in the eyes of the military, adultery, because he is still legally married to another women, also remember that those children will be put in a spot also, just because housing is at a "premium". So what it sounds like to me, is that just because housing is hard to come by, and other couples who ARE getting BAH etc. etc. are living on the economy (and if its that bad, they get COLA) you want to put children in a situation where they will not have a place to stay for an unknown period of time, miss schooling, etc. etc.
While I agree that the SM's morales and values are of balance, I wonder if others arent. Maybe you should consider approaching the SM and seeing what the deal is. Maybe the divorce is being finalized so the SM can marry the other, and everything will be right. Who knows. If not, give them a courtesy warning that your going to the Housing department of the post, and give them time to settle the kids somewhere else. But most assuredly find out the whole story, or you may make an horses-tail of yourself. |
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megan v
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I would keep my mouth shut. After living in gov't quarters for so long I learned it is easier to leave things alone. It may not be right but it will probably make some people mad and living with mad neighbors can be horrible... And if you are already in quarters just be thankful. |
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Mrsjvb
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fraud is being committed if the separated spouse is continuing to receive TRICARE and other bennies. Fraud is being committed because only bona fide dependents are authorized to live in military family housing.
By all means inform Housing, and the IG, cuz if the Command knows and is doing nothing, they are in violation as well. |
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Morgan
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I'd probably have to speak up. I know here its like hell to get on post housing. I know everyone is getting BAH but, some lower enlisted with 2 kids + doesnt get enough BAH to pay for a house big enough for their family.
Now if your just doing it to add to the drama that already goes on ,on post then you need to keep your mouth shut. But this is a real valid issue, and I'd have to call. |
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Justice35
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Report them because there could be a family off post on a waiting list who really need housing, if his Chain of Command knew they are allowing adultry , hmm I have a friend right now in housing who has 2 children 4 yrs apart in a 2 bed room house waiting on a 3 bedroom , GMH is giving them the run around yet Another Soldier in the unit just married no children and GMH had them looking at 3 and 4 bedroom housing .. it isnt right, too many Military people try to get over when there are families who need housing ..
I even had a friend who told on her friend's friend ( keep tracking) because she was in a 4 bedroom lied and said her dad was living with her due to him being ill yet they have no kids and GMH removed them to a smaller unit.
You do what you feel in your heart is right only you can do that.
Armywife over 10 yrs and ANG Soldier |
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Ravin
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I'm not surprised at the amount of people who are telling you it's none of your business; but most of them probably don't know or care that military, on-base housing is neither a right nor a guarantee; to qualify for on-base housing you must meet the Housing Office's stipulations. It sounds like there's some shady stuff going on here, and the military will need to know about it. It's bad enough that this guy can't keep his own life straight... it's quite another for him to be dipping into taxpayer's pockets to pay for his irresponsibility. If he wants to be irresponsible, let him pay for it himself; let that government money support legitimate families who actually need it, and are bothering to abide by the rules as well as what they know is right. I'd call the housing office to find out what the rules are, and if they're in violation, call IG on them. Whether the military actually follows through on this is another matter--they're notorious for letting things slide that they really shouldn't... nonetheless, Fraud/Waste/Abuse is something they take seriously, and this counts as both Fraud and Abuse, both of resources and of money. They shouldn't be doing that. |
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nena_en_austin
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do what you heart tells you... |
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I Love My Jeffy Boy Cries Bush
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Yes you should...the Republicans would
only be in a uproar about this if the couple
were....GASP... gay!!!
(But always excluding Mary Cheney of course!) |
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Spring
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I agree with some of the post and I understand that sometimes you have to live something alone. But I know someone who is having this same problem and everyone know about it even the change o f command. This soilder who is an E7 is staying with a woman on base who is not his wife and his son. His other children is with his wife and he is not paying no support and the change of command and others or not trying to help his wife. He has lied several times and threaten his wife but no one is doing anything. His girfriend has text the wife and called her all kinds of names and the girl husband just sit by and let it happen. So what do you do in a case like this where the change of command and jag knows all about even Congress. |
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CC
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